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 Topic: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex

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  • Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     OP - January 02, 2010, 12:23 AM

    I have a number of friends (non-Arab) who have either lived in the Gulf for a brief period or were born and raised there. A common theme that they do share is their disgust towards Gulf Arabs. They describe them as arrogant, brainless, racist, sexist and full of themselves. They also claim that most of the young men from that part of the world indulge in a little man on man action before marriage and sometimes during.

    If that is true it would make a lot of sense to me since they live in such a suppressed and hypocritical environment. Anyone here any the wiser?

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #1 - January 02, 2010, 12:39 AM

    I have a number of friends (non-Arab) who have either lived in the Gulf for a brief period or were born and raised there. A common theme that they do share is their disgust towards Gulf Arabs. They describe them as arrogant, brainless, racist, sexist and full of themselves. They also claim that most of the young men from that part of the world indulge in a little man on man action before marriage and sometimes during.

    If that is true it would make a lot of sense to me since they live in such a suppressed and hypocritical environment. Anyone here any the wiser?


    There was an article i was reading on 'gay middle east' site which talked about due to segregated environment that guys at an early age would have 'friends' whom they would fool around with - what is even more stupid is the person doing the penetrating is still considered 'straight' in that society and many other Muslim societies.

    I know when I was down in Christchurch there was a Saudi student who liked to fuck some white ass but had an arranged marriage back in Saudi Arabia; the whole Muslim world is in a state of denial really - the belief that homosexuality is some sort of abnormality from the west.

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #2 - January 02, 2010, 12:51 AM

    I have a number of friends (non-Arab) who have either lived in the Gulf for a brief period or were born and raised there. A common theme that they do share is their disgust towards Gulf Arabs. They describe them as arrogant, brainless, racist, sexist and full of themselves. They also claim that most of the young men from that part of the world indulge in a little man on man action before marriage and sometimes during.

    If that is true it would make a lot of sense to me since they live in such a suppressed and hypocritical environment. Anyone here any the wiser?


    When something is supressed then it will find other outlet.

    You will find this any culture where this supression goes on.

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #3 - January 02, 2010, 12:55 AM

    Well you might be surprised to learn that even other Arabs describe them that way. I lived in Egypt for a while (in fact I'm on a visit now) and unfortunately most Egyptians feel the same way towards Khaleejis as your friends do. (Khaleeji=native of the Gulf region)
    Needless to say I have met a number of very nice and decent Saudis and Kuwaitis. The thing is most of them go to other poorer Arab countries such as Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt for vacation. Being considerably more well-off, the natives of these countries subliminally think of them as condescending and arrogant even if they aren't. Of course, there are some very nasty ones. Not to mention the sex tourists who go to these countries just for sex and alcohol.

    Having been to Dubai, I have noticed that indeed there is racism and prejudice against South Asian people. It's not a vile KKK kinda racism. It's more of a class-based racism as most laborers there are from South Asia. Sad but true.

    As for homosexuality, it is on the rise so is transvestism. Unfortunately not due to tolerance but as a result of sexual suppression.
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #4 - January 02, 2010, 12:58 AM

    Good article.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200705/gay-saudi-arabia

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #5 - January 03, 2010, 12:51 AM

    suppressed society where they have very little association with women other than the ones in their family

    Fight on the Oppression my fellow Ex Muslims!!!
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #6 - January 03, 2010, 01:13 AM


    Is lesbianism rampant amongst the women too?

    If so, that's hot.


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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #7 - January 03, 2010, 02:46 AM

    *shakes head* the muslim ummah will implode on itself in 20 years from now
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #8 - January 03, 2010, 05:33 AM

    *shakes head* the muslim ummah will implode on itself in 20 years from now.


    Too bad that this explosion of homoeroticism isn't resulting in a shrink in the populations of many of these countries.

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #9 - January 03, 2010, 06:46 AM

    *shakes head* the muslim ummah will implode on itself in 20 years from now


    LOL

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #10 - January 03, 2010, 11:10 AM

    I have a number of friends (non-Arab) who have either lived in the Gulf for a brief period or were born and raised there. A common theme that they do share is their disgust towards Gulf Arabs. They describe them as arrogant, brainless, racist, sexist and full of themselves. They also claim that most of the young men from that part of the world indulge in a little man on man action before marriage and sometimes during.

    If that is true it would make a lot of sense to me since they live in such a suppressed and hypocritical environment. Anyone here any the wiser?



    No, but I have a friend (non-welsh) who tells me that in Wales, inbred sheep-shaggers roam the land waiting to pounce on unsuspecting, four legged furry beasts. Perhaps you might like to hypothesise about this bigoted slice of hearsay too? Idiot.
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #11 - January 03, 2010, 11:28 AM


    No, but I have a friend (non-welsh) who tells me that in Wales, inbred sheep-shaggers roam the land waiting to pounce on unsuspecting, four legged furry beasts. Perhaps you might like to hypothesise about this bigoted slice of hearsay too? Idiot.


    Oh great, a Muslim troll.

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #12 - January 03, 2010, 01:06 PM

    I think the sensible people here know who the trolls are Kaiwai. You aren't even an ex muslim are you? Why are you here? Do you feel threatened by women, Muslims, foreigners as a matter of rule? I've watched you on your video's, you are a sad, sad, lonely man, really, I hope things improve for you. I really should have stuck to not posting, it makes me feel dirty to even engage in a conversation with your kind.
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #13 - January 03, 2010, 02:45 PM

    suppressed society where they have very little association with women other than the ones in their family


    Same goes in Afghanistan where the boys are for fun and the women are for babies and housework.  Even the Taliban partook of little boy buggering:

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/05/taliban_in_lips.php




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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #14 - January 03, 2010, 03:01 PM

    I think the sensible people here know who the trolls are Kaiwai. You aren't even an ex muslim are you? Why are you here? Do you feel threatened by women, Muslims, foreigners as a matter of rule? I've watched you on your video's, you are a sad, sad, lonely man, really, I hope things improve for you. I really should have stuck to not posting, it makes me feel dirty to even engage in a conversation with your kind.


    And you're a sad and pathetic person attacking me online. The fact that you think I hate women and foreigners tells me you haven't watched a single one of my videos - you're yet another person attacking me because I'm not willing to bend over and accommodate the worshipping of your sacred cow.

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #15 - January 03, 2010, 04:21 PM

    I think the sensible people here know who the trolls are Kaiwai. You aren't even an ex muslim are you? Why are you here? Do you feel threatened by women, Muslims, foreigners as a matter of rule? I've watched you on your video's, you are a sad, sad, lonely man, really, I hope things improve for you. I really should have stuck to not posting, it makes me feel dirty to even engage in a conversation with your kind.


    Ludo, attack kawai all you like, but your ad hominem attack on pakman was completely unwarranted. Pakman is actually disgusted by Muslim-bashing, and, like you, has taken hiatuses from posting here because he didn't want to deal with the Muslim-bashing bigots that sometimes post here. I actually think your sarcastic Welsh sheep-fucker post was a fair (and funny) reply to his post, but you really crossed the line calling pakman an idiot-- totally uncalled for and unfair.

    fuck you
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #16 - January 03, 2010, 04:36 PM

    Ludo, attack kawai all you like, but your ad hominem attack on pakman was completely unwarranted. Pakman is actually disgusted by Muslim-bashing, and, like you, has taken hiatuses from posting here because he didn't want to deal with the Muslim-bashing bigots that sometimes post here. I actually think your sarcastic Welsh sheep-fucker post was a fair (and funny) reply to his post, but you really crossed the line calling pakman an idiot-- totally uncalled for and unfair.

     Afro
    To rephrase: I am not trying to be condescending here but I assume you know little about Pakman's motivations or background therefore it might be a good idea to avoid making pseudo-psychological ad-hominem assessments of other members.

    I hope you do realize that such attacks speak tons about you and your values, show you in a strange light and damage your credibility.
  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #17 - January 03, 2010, 06:05 PM

    Same goes in Afghanistan where the boys are for fun and the women are for babies and housework.  Even the Taliban partook of little boy buggering:

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/05/taliban_in_lips.php


    Here's an interesting historical quote from the founder of the Mughal Dynasty, Babur:

    Quote
    In those leisurely days I discovered in myself a strange inclination, nay! as the verse says, I maddened and afflicted myself" for a boy in the camp-bazaar, his very name, Baburi, fitting in.... From time to time Baburi used to come to my presence but out of modesty and bashfulness, I could never look straight at him; how then could I make conversation and recital? In my joy and agitation I could not thank him (for coming); how was it possible for me to reproach him with going away? What power had I to command the duty service to myself? One day, during that time of desire and passion when I was going with companions along a lane and suddenly met him face to face, I got into such a state of confusion that I almost went right off. To look straight at him or put words together was impossible.... In that frothing up of desire and passion, and under that stress of youthful folly, I used to wander, barehead, bare-foot, through street and lane, orchard and vineyard.


    Awww, how romantic!


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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #18 - January 03, 2010, 06:13 PM

    Yes,
    Quote
    Emperor Babur's autobiography is quite clear on his indifferent love for his wife and his preference for a lad. We also know that until the middle of twentieth century, when the princely states were incorporated into an independent India, there was a strong tradition of homosexuality in many princely courts in north India. The homosexual relationships were much safer than relationships with mistresses whose children could be the source of endless divisive rivalries

     http://www.littleindia.com/news/145/ARTICLE/1835/2007-08-17.html

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #19 - January 03, 2010, 06:19 PM

    lol Babur was hilarious. I remember reading his entire autobiography and I noticed how often he'd state his main motivation on going on another military campaign was to avoid the tempation of all the pretty little boys in his native Uzbekistan. LOL Indians better hang their head in shame, we got conquered by a guy who buggered little pre-pubescent boys!!

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #20 - January 03, 2010, 06:46 PM

    The first caliph of Corduba Abd ar Rahman III also had a particular liking for boys.  He kept a whole harem of them if I'm not mistaken.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #21 - January 03, 2010, 07:32 PM

    Well you might be surprised to learn that even other Arabs describe them that way. I lived in Egypt for a while (in fact I'm on a visit now) and unfortunately most Egyptians feel the same way towards Khaleejis as your friends do. (Khaleeji=native of the Gulf region)

    Needless to say I have met a number of very nice and decent Saudis and Kuwaitis. The thing is most of them go to other poorer Arab countries such as Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt for vacation. Being considerably more well-off, the natives of these countries subliminally think of them as condescending and arrogant even if they aren't. Of course, there are some very nasty ones. Not to mention the sex tourists who go to these countries just for sex and alcohol.


    I don't think it's subliminal, and despite the presence of nice, kind khaleejis, this attitude is a reaction to very real behaviors on the part of summer vacationers.  There is a difference in attitudes towards khaleejis who come to live in these countries for the weather, the better schools, or whatever and the ones who descend on the other Arab countries in the summer.  I did not hear people speak bad words about the expatriates who come there for university or who want to raise their children there.  But people cannot complain enough about summer khaleejis. 

    I think it stems from resentment towards the summer tourists, because when the khaleejis come to town, the government, the security forces, the local economy all orients itself towards pleasing and serving the khaleejis, sometimes at the expense of local people - citizens.  The streets in some Arab cities are choked with more traffic and headaches during khaleeji time than the rest of the year - and anyone who has driven an Arab street knows how bad it is already.  Their arrival drives up housing costs and you sign a year's contract for a lease, so if you are forced to find housing for yourself when the khaleejis are in town, you will have to pay that super high price that set the market in July, even if the same house or flat would go for much cheaper the other 9 months of the year. 

    The men would come to town - not the Emiratis, but Kuwaitis and esp Saudis - and they harass women in the street, even women in niqaab.  I cannot tell you how many times I've been harassed by Saudi men young and old who have never seen a female other than their mother or maid, and certainly not one in full hijab going about her daily business alone, in public.  When the summer khaleejis are in town, you have to turn your Bluetooth off on your phone, because they will bombard your phone with love notes, pornographic images and propositions. My feelings towards them after this were not subliminal, let me tell you.  And while perhaps based on exaggerated fears, we all know that if a Saudi family with men present was renting in your building or your neighborhood, you had to be especially vigilant with the boys (of course most families already keep a tighter reign on the girls).  Mind you, pederasty is already widespread even in the poorer Arab countries, but when the khaleejis came to town for the summer, we were actually afraid for our boys.  For whatever reason, the threat of abuse was more immediate to people from the khaleejis, even though if the boy is going to be abused, it's more likely another local who will do it to him. 

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #22 - January 03, 2010, 07:39 PM

    The men would come to town - not the Emiratis, but Kuwaitis and esp Saudis - and they harass women in the street, even women in niqaab.  I cannot tell you how many times I've been harassed by Saudi men young and old who have never seen a female other than their mother or maid, and certainly not one in full hijab going about her daily business alone, in public.  When the summer khaleejis are in town, you have to turn your Bluetooth off on your phone, because they will bombard your phone with love notes, pornographic images and propositions. My feelings towards them after this were not subliminal, let me tell you.  And while perhaps based on exaggerated fears, we all know that if a Saudi family with men present was renting in your building or your neighborhood, you had to be especially vigilant with the boys (of course most families already keep a tighter reign on the girls).  Mind you, pederasty is already widespread even in the poorer Arab countries, but when the khaleejis came to town for the summer, we were actually afraid for our boys.  For whatever reason, the threat of abuse was more immediate to people from the khaleejis, even though if the boy is going to be abused, it's more likely another local who will do it to him. 


    Maybe those men young and old hit on you like madmen because masturbation is haraam in Islam. So they are obviously sexually frustrated  Cheesy

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #23 - January 03, 2010, 08:46 PM

    Gonna go mack on a niqabi, BRB

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #24 - January 03, 2010, 08:56 PM

    lol good luck  Cheesy

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #25 - January 03, 2010, 09:00 PM

    Bluetooth, here I come! Baby!

    Niqabi pick-up lines:

    "Hey baby, u can cover up ur face as u like, but I can still see dat badonkadonk, oooh"

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #26 - January 03, 2010, 09:01 PM

    Yeah, that'll definitely get you in there!   Afro

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #27 - January 03, 2010, 09:57 PM

    Bluetooth, here I come! Baby!

    Niqabi pick-up lines:

    "Hey baby, u can cover up ur face as u like, but I can still see dat badonkadonk, oooh"


    Hey sexy niqabija I love those shoulders.

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  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #28 - January 03, 2010, 09:59 PM

    Anyways, I hit on hijabis all the time. Trust me, that piece of cloth does not discourage a woman from flirting!!

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Why are so many Gulf Arabs into Gay sex
     Reply #29 - January 03, 2010, 11:10 PM

    ludo - unlike Welsh sheep shaggers the gulf Arab gay thing is not a myth, just ask anyone who had lived there. I have family in the gulf and many friends who have lived there. According a female sex therapist who appeared on al jazeera it is estimated that about 60% of Saudi men indulge in gay sexual contact. Furthermore, my Arab friends at Uni would always talk about such behaviour. Hence your comparison with the Welsh is completly of the mark. Sorry I forgot to add 'idiot'.

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
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