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 Topic: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.

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  • Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     OP - September 23, 2010, 01:28 PM

    Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.

    God created man.
    God then created the law’s that we are to follow, thus creating moral evil.

    Isaiah 45;7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    He told Adam and Eve to obey His command to not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil under penalty of death. When Adam and Eve disobeyed and reached out for this essential knowledge, the knowledge of higher education and morals, He imposed His threatened sentence not only on the guilty but also the innocent, all of mankind.

    The offspring of man were sentenced to bear the iniquity of our first father, Adam, contradicting---
     
    Ezekiel 18;20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    God is also condemning those who have not sinned. The completely innocent.

    Roman 9;11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;

    In other words, He commanded us to live without a moral sense and basically remain un-educated and as dumb as the lesser animals. You will know that most issues and topics of higher education all have values of good and evil thus we were restricted from engaging in their study.

    We were ordered to stay dumb and be slaved to all of Gods commands.


    God gives man free will and dominion on earth. The power to rule ourselves under our own choices.
    If we do as ordered, and do not take dominion, we are offered heaven. A place where we must continue to do as ordered or we are banished to eternal torture in hell.
    If we do not follow God’s commands and take his gift of dominion in any other way other than what is ordered by God, we are banished to everlasting torture in hell.

    In other words, if in heaven we are slaves to God. If on earth or in hell, we are slaves to God. If we exercise our free choice we are condemned to be slaves in hell.

    Where is this freedom that God gave man?
    It seems that His given freedom says that we are only free to follow His commands.
    That is slavery hidden under a false premise of His calling us free.
     
    Is that freedom in your opinion or slavery ?

    Is freedom in both heaven and hell the exactly same thing, follow God’s rules; except for the purposeless cruelty, torture and burning in hell?

    Islam vs. Christianity.
    The Koran, as opposed to the Bible, seems to be more honest and states up front that Allah wants men to be slaves. Is the God of the Bible hypocritical in lying and saying that man is free?

    Does God want to keep us dumb and un-educated by withholding most higher knowledge?

    Regards
    DL

    God is a cosmic consciousness.
    Telepathy the key to contact.
    Our next evolutionary step. No choice.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #1 - September 23, 2010, 02:54 PM

    I wonder what Gabriel's favourite flavour of ice cream is.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #2 - September 23, 2010, 06:25 PM

    Whatever God tells him it is and off to hell with him if he does not agree.

    Regards
    DL

    God is a cosmic consciousness.
    Telepathy the key to contact.
    Our next evolutionary step. No choice.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #3 - September 23, 2010, 06:38 PM

    What's this 'higher knowledge' you alluded to in the thread posit?

    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #4 - September 25, 2010, 02:28 AM

    The same knowledge that gives you your moral sense.
    The knowledge of good and evil. It also opens the door to most of the intellectual knowledge and wisdom that we all seek.

    Almost anything you can think of has a good or evil application.
    Try for your own fun to think of a topic or issue where moral good and evil do not apply.

    Regards
    DL

    God is a cosmic consciousness.
    Telepathy the key to contact.
    Our next evolutionary step. No choice.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #5 - September 25, 2010, 08:56 AM


    Try for your own fun to think of a topic or issue where moral good and evil do not apply.


    what colour to paint my bedroom

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  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #6 - September 25, 2010, 09:37 AM

    Pepsi or Coke as a taste preference

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #7 - September 25, 2010, 09:37 AM

    Chocolate or Vanilla

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #8 - September 25, 2010, 09:39 AM

    Rum or Vodka, blond or brunette,  Ginger or Mary Anne, Playstation 3 or X Box 360 as a choice of video game platform, Pushups or situps, 

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #9 - September 25, 2010, 09:40 AM

    mental fantasy of Selma Hayek or Padma Lakshmi

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #10 - September 25, 2010, 09:40 AM

    Pepsi or Coke as a taste preference


    Pepsi might use child labor to make their product. Choosing it then has moral implications.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #11 - September 25, 2010, 09:41 AM

    Oh SOLVED! Selma Hayek AND Padma Lakshmi! There is a greater good!

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #12 - September 25, 2010, 09:42 AM

    Pepsi might use child labor to make their product. Choosing it then has moral implications.

     not as the choice between Pepsi and Coke as choices between two tastes.  I more generic way of saying it might be cola taste verses lemon lime taste.  

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #13 - September 25, 2010, 03:43 PM

    what colour to paint my bedroom


    What color do you like? That is the good one. All others are evil to your eyes.

    Do not fix the holes first. That is really evil.

    Regards
    DL

    God is a cosmic consciousness.
    Telepathy the key to contact.
    Our next evolutionary step. No choice.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #14 - September 26, 2010, 05:16 PM

    no, I dont see the other colours as evil or a question of ethics - I just find some more visually appealing than others.

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  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #15 - September 27, 2010, 02:21 PM

    Ok. More good to me is the same as is less evil and I agree it is not a moral issue but one of taste.
    It is still an issue where good, better or best applies.

    Regards
    DL

    God is a cosmic consciousness.
    Telepathy the key to contact.
    Our next evolutionary step. No choice.
  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #16 - September 27, 2010, 05:47 PM

    i liek this thread

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.
     Reply #17 - September 27, 2010, 06:33 PM

    Good.

    You could have given your view.

    Regards
    DL

    God is a cosmic consciousness.
    Telepathy the key to contact.
    Our next evolutionary step. No choice.
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