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 Topic: Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring

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  • Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring
     OP - April 07, 2011, 01:51 PM

    'Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring'


    Rabbi Dov Lior says Jewish Law prohibits sterile couples from conceiving using non-Jew's sperm, as it causes adverse traits. On subject of single mothers he says, 'Child cannot be 100% normal'

    Kobi Nahshoni Published:  01.12.11, 08:30 / Israel Jewish Scene 

    Rabbi Dov Lior, a senior authority on Jewish law in the Religious Zionism movement, asserted recently that a Jewish woman should never get pregnant using sperm donated by a non-Jewish man – even if it is the last option available.

    According to Lior, a baby born through such an insemination will have the "negative genetic traits that characterize non-Jews." Instead, he advised sterile couples to adopt.

    Sensitive Issue 
     
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    After years of loneliness and failed dates, as yearning for child becomes intolerable, increasing number of national-religious women decide to take their fate in their hands, start family as single mothers while maintaining religious way of life. New phenomenon already dividing sector, irking rabbis 
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    Lior addressed the issue during a women's health conference held recently at the Puah Institute, a fertility clinic. His conservative stance negated a ruling widely accepted by rabbis, which states that sperm donated by a non-Jew is preferable to that of an anonymous Jew, who might pose a genealogical risk.


    "Sefer HaChinuch (a book of Jewish law) states that the character traits of the father pass on to the son," he said in the lecture. "If the father in not Jewish, what character traits could he have? Traits of cruelty, of barbarism! These are not traits that characterize the people of Israel."


    Lior added identified Jews as merciful, shy and charitable – qualities that he claimed could be inherited. "A person born to Jewish parents, even if they weren't raised on the Torah – there are things that are passed on (to him) in the blood, it's genetic," he explained. "If the father is a gentile, then the child is deprived of these things.

    "I even read in books that sometimes the crime, the difficult traits, the bitterness – a child that comes from these traits, it's no surprise that he won't have the qualities that characterize the people of Israel," he added.


    'Kids born to single moms become criminals'

    Lior condemned artificial insemination and sperm donation in general, saying that they lead to waste of sperm, unclear genealogy and other Jewish law offenses. He warned against undergoing intrauterine insemination at hospitals, where the workers may mix sperm samples for one reason or another - a major halachic violation.
     
    On the subject of women who freeze their eggs to use at a later date, the rabbi asserted that instead they should concentrate their efforts on getting married younger.

    "Our public has been influenced by a part of the Western culture in which every woman, instead of becoming a mother, needs to get a Masters Degree," he lamented. "The role of women – child rearing – is not less important than an academic degree." Lior noted that there is nothing wrong with attaining a profession, but it should not be a priority.


    Moreover, the rabbi spoke against single women getting pregnant.

     
    "We can understand the desire of every woman to have a child, but according to our Torah it is impossible to address the demand of a certain woman when it can cause someone else suffering," he said.

     
    "If a child is born without a father, he cannot be 100% normal." He stated that rabbinical literature defines these kids as "criminals and subjects of other negative phenomena."

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4006385,00.html
  • Re: Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring
     Reply #1 - April 07, 2011, 02:14 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Lior

    http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/02/arrest-warrant-issued-for-rabbi-dov-lior-234.html

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring
     Reply #2 - April 08, 2011, 06:25 AM

    Meir Kahane-Baruch Goldstein-Patriarchs massacre of unarmed Palestinian Muslims

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacre
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring
     Reply #3 - April 08, 2011, 03:15 PM

    These romans are crazee

    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring
     Reply #4 - April 08, 2011, 03:19 PM

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    According to Lior, a baby born through such an insemination will have the "negative genetic traits that characterize non-Jews." Instead, he advised sterile couples to adopt.


    This is coming from a Jew?! A JEW?! Are you fucking kidding me? Why doesnt he just call Jews Herrenrasse and be done with it?!

    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring
     Reply #5 - April 08, 2011, 04:43 PM

    Lol rabbis.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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