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  • Zamzam water miracles
     OP - January 30, 2014, 01:26 PM

    I've heard few claims about zamzam and I would gladly hear your answers. And claims are about "real" zamzam and not about "zamzam" which is sold in Europe.
    So few questions.

    1. It is miraculous that zamzam has never dried because it's coming from such a small source while being used by millions of people every year.
    I'm not saying it is miracle but I find it weird that if it actually comes from really small source then how can it be enough for everyone?

    2. How can desert place have so much water?

    3. It has special texture and it makes special crystals when frozen and when it "hears" recitacion of Quran.
    This is according to Masaru Emoto.

    4. It has positive effects on human cells, like no other water.
    This is according to Masaru Emoto.

    5. One drop of zamzam will change much larger amount of other water to that like of zamzam.

    SO what you think?

    I ask many stupid questions frequently.
    I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
    I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
    I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
    So forgive me and answer me Smiley
  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #1 - January 30, 2014, 02:02 PM

    I've heard few claims about zamzam and I would gladly hear your answers. And claims are about "real" zamzam and not about "zamzam" which is sold in Europe.
    So few questions.

    1. It is miraculous that zamzam has never dried because it's coming from such a small source while being used by millions of people every year.
    I'm not saying it is miracle but I find it weird that if it actually comes from really small source then how can it be enough for everyone?

    2. How can desert place have so much water?

    3. It has special texture and it makes special crystals when frozen and when it "hears" recitacion of Quran.
    This is according to Masaru Emoto.

    4. It has positive effects on human cells, like no other water.
    This is according to Masaru Emoto.

    5. One drop of zamzam will change much larger amount of other water to that like of zamzam.

    SO what you think?

    what is there to think Siunaa Maailmaa.??    Fools write nonsense , we have discussed this rubbish zillion times in this forum and other forums..  and one German IDIOT apparently a doctor (Dr. Knut Pfeiffer) not sure what kind of dr is this fool is., but  he shares some of that oil money and  goes  on to Arab TV talk shows  to fool millions of innocent folks who happened to be born in to Muslim families..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcmpI1gsOkI

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    Dr. Knut Pfeiffer, is Christian German doctor specialist in internal medicine. For more info: www.pst-knutpfeiffer.de . He has discovered that Zamam water has far more positive effect on human cells than regular drinking water from Munich, Germany. He also believes that Islamic prayers are more positive effect on the energy and thus health than Christian prayers.


    THIS IDIOT SHOULD BE JAILED FOR FRAUD...

     

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #2 - January 30, 2014, 02:13 PM

    I think these claims are untrue but I would like to hear rebuttals to those claims.

    I ask many stupid questions frequently.
    I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
    I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
    I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
    So forgive me and answer me Smiley
  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #3 - January 30, 2014, 02:24 PM

    I think these claims are untrue but  I would like to hear rebuttals to those claims.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAbn92BV528

    I tell you this Siunaa Maailmaa., I am not sure whether you understand above tube or not but that is from Pakistan and is watched by MILLIONS OF PEOPLE .,  these guys you see there are very nice people and wonderful truthful funny reporters  but when it comes to Islam and Islamic miracles such as that Zam-zam water, their common sense goes out of the window and they start talking UTTER NONSENSE..   You are absolutely correct saying  a proper rebuttal from scientific institute has not been published on this nonsense .. And there are many reasons for that.  Well I am glad you raised that point .. Let us see where we go from here..

    More work.. more work..

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #4 - January 30, 2014, 02:33 PM

    Well of Zam Zam and turned the Facts



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    The Well of Zamzam is a well located within the Masjid al Haram in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, 20 meters east of the Kaaba, the holiest place in Islam. According to Islamic tradition it was a miraculously- generated source of water, which began thousands of years ago when Ibraham's infant son was thirsty and kept crying for water and was kicking at the ground when water gushed out. Millions of pilgrims visit the well each year while performing the Hajj or Umrah pilgrimages, in order to drink its water. By Saudi law, the water cannot be sold outside of the kingdom, but because of strong demand there is a thriving market in fake Zamzam water in other countries.

    So far, we know the well of Zamzam from religious books. However, there is a scientific side also looh saintifiknya. The branch of geology that learning about water is hydrogeologi.

    Well of Zamzam

    Efficacy of Zam-zam water certainly not here to be explained, but if the tales of geology Zam-zam well may be explained here. A little story of Pre-Islamic, or before the birth of Prophet Muhammad, begins with the story of Prophet Ibrahim's wife, Siti Hajar, who are looking for water for her story. Well is then not much or no story, so that the well was reported missing.

    Well of Zam-zam we currently see is the well dug by his grandfather Abdul Muttalib Mohammed. So when this, the "science persumuran" the Zam-zam well, including digging wells categories (Dug Water Well).

    Dimensions and the Well Profile Zam-zam

    Form of Zam-zam well

    These wells have a depth of about 30.5 meters. To a depth of 13.5 meters through the top layer of Wadi Ibrahim alluvium. This layer is a layer of sand is very porous. This layer contains batupasir transport results from other places. Maybe once there flowed a river valley which is currently dry. Or can also be a lowland accumulation of debris or rock weathering the higher topography.

    Zamzam spring

    Under Ibrahim Wadi alluvial layers have a half feet (0.5 m) layer of water that is passed (permeable). Layer of water that was passed which is the main place of water-water discharge in the Zam-zam well.

    Zamzam spring

    Depth of 17 meters further down, this well through hard rock layers that form igneous Diorit. This type of igneous (Diorit) was rather rare in Indonesia or in Java, but very often found in the Arabian Peninsula. At the top of this rock-fissure cracks found which also contain water. There used to be a suspected crack is to the Red Sea. But there is no (perhaps I have not found) geological report showing that.

    Of the test well is capable of pumping the water for 11 - 18.5 liters / second, until permenit can reach 660 liters / minute or 40 000 liters per hour. The gaps or cracks this one is pretty much out of water. There is a gap (chasm) that extend towards the Black Stone with a 75 cm long, 30 cm in height premises, as well as some small gaps towards Shaffa and Marwa.

    Other geometric information, a gap well below where Thawaf 1:56 m, the total depth of the well mouth 30 m, depth of water from wells lip = 4 m, depth 13 m spring, from spring until the bottom of a well 17 m, and diameters ranging from well 1:46 up to 2.66 meters.

    Rain water as a source of blessing

    Mecca is located in the valley, according to SGS (Saudi Geological Survey) wide basin which supplies a wide catchment area is only 60 Km2, of course, not too wide as a receiver basin rain. The well water sources Zam-zam water mainly from rain that fell in the area around Mecca.

    These wells are wells used hydrologi just so badly needed treatment. Treatment includes keeping the well water quality and environmental hygiene and keeping the well water supply to be able to meet the needs of **** pilgrims in Mecca. Land clearing for settlement around Makkah very neatly to avoid a reduction in the capacity of this well.

    the location of the Well of Zamzam

    This above picture shows the location of the Well of Zamzam is located in the middle of the valley that extends. Haram Mosque in the middle of the hills surrounding hills. Catchment area of only 60 square km is certainly small enough to catch the rain water is very rare that happens in Makkah, which require monitoring and maintenance of a very special.

    Well of Zamzam was, once again in view of (scientific) hydrogeology, just like ordinary dig wells. Not too special compared to digging wells other. However, because these wells religious significance, it needs to be maintained. Many of his hope in this water because the well is believed to bring fortune. Some claimed the well is also dry if not protected. Even if we know the story well is found again by Abdul-Muttalib (grandfather of the Prophet Muhammad SAW) after missing buried 4000 years (?).

    In the past there are well over a building with an area of 8.3 mx 10.7 m = 88.8 m2. Between 1381-1388 H building to expand the excluded thawaf place. So the place to drink Zamzam water moved into the basement. Under this land provided the drinking zam-zam water with some 350 water tap (faucet for 220 men and 130 faucets for women), living in male-female were separated.

    Monitoring and maintenance of the Well of Zamzam

    Currently the building above the Zam-Zam well visible above picture is not there anymore, even the entrance to the basement of the program is closed. So the space for worship Thawaf become more widespread. But if you are observant Thawaf fit we can still see no sign of where the well is located. The well is located approximately 20 meters east of the Kaaba.

    Monitoring and maintenance of the Well of Zamzam

    The number of pilgrims to Mecca thirty years ago only 400 000 per year (of 1970), continued to increase to more than a million pilgrims annually in the 1990s, and currently has more than 2.2 million. Of course, maintenance is required for this well is one of the wonders and the main attraction for pilgrims.

    The Saudi government certainly can not let go just let the rest of this well preserved by God through the natural process. But the government of Saudi Arabia currently has a modern and scientific scientifically establish a special agency in charge of this Zamzam well. Saudi Arabia seems it was not just believe it to surrender to God as a guard, but it is believed humans have to keep this gift well.

    Pump System

    In 1971 research (research) by an expert hydrology hydrology from Pakistan named Tariq Hussain and Moin Uddin Ahmed. This was triggered by a statement of a doctor in Egypt which claimed Zamzam water and waste water contaminated with hazardous for consumption. Tariq Hussain (including me from the side of the hydrogeology) also doubted the speculation of a long fissure that connects the red sea by the Well of Zam-zam, because Mecca is located 75 Kilometers from the shore. Egyptian doctor regarding these allegations, Of course the results refute a doctor from Egypt, but there are things more important to me that this study actually Tariq Hussain finally spur the Saudi Arabian government to pay attention to the Well of Zamzam is modern. We have so many new buildings are built around the Grand Mosque, also lots of tunnels built around Mecca, so the current building should really tightly controlled because it will affect the local hydrogeological conditions.

    Well of Zamzam Research Agency under the SGS
    (Saudi Geological Survey) duty to:

    * Monitoring and maintenance to keep from these wells dry.
    * Maintain an urban surrounding Wadi Ibrahim because it affects water filling.
    * Manage the flow of water from the catchment area (recharge area).
    * Maintaining groundwater movement and also maintain quality control through the building.
    * Upgrading and pumps and receiver tanks.
    * Optimized supplai and distribution airZam-zam

    Development of the Well of Zamzam treatment.
    Once upon a time, taken with Zamzam water dipper or bucket, but then the water pump was built in 1373 H/1953 M. These pumps deliver water from wells to water reservoirs, and will also tap-tap into those around the Zamzam well.

    Test pump (pumping test) was conducted on these wells, the pumping of 8000 liters / sec for more than 24 hours showed the well water of 3:23 meters below the surface to be 12.72 meters and then until 13:39 meters. After it stopped pumping water level is back to 3.9 meters below the surface of the wells in 11 Minut after the pump is stopped. So easy to believe that the aquifer that supplies water comes from a few cracks (cracks) in the hills near Mecca.

    Many things have been done to maintain the Saudi government, among other wells by forming a special agency in the year 1415 AH (1994). and is now building a channel to channel Zam-zam water to storage tanks with a capacity of 15,000 m3, continued with another tank at the top of the Grand Mosque in order to serve the pedestrians and travelers. In addition Zam-zam water is also transported to other places such as tank trucks to Masjid Nabawi in Madinah Al-Munawarrah.

    Currently the well is also equipped with electric pumps implanted under the (electric submersible pump). We can only see the pictures just like above. This is the right hidrograf drums, recording equipment recording the height of Zamzam water wells (Old style drum hydrograph used for recording levels in the Zamzam Well).

    Mineral content

    Unlike mineral water common, Zamzam water is unique in containing the natural elements of 2000 mg perliter. Usually, natural mineral water (Carbonated water hard) not to exceed 260 mg per liter. Chemical elements that terkandng in Zamzam water can be grouped into
    The first, positive Ions such as sodium (250 mg per liter), calcium (200 mg per liter), potassium (20 mg per liter), and magnesium (50 mg per liter).
    Second, negative Ions such as sulfur (372 mg per liter), bicarbonates (366 mg per liter), nitrate (273 mg per liter), phosphat (0.25 mg per liter) and ammonia (6 mg per liter).

    Zam zam water molecule

    Contents of chemical elements that make sense of Zamzam water is very unique and is believed to provide special benefits. Water is already littered with fast food around the Grand Mosque and Masjid Nabawi in Medina is the water that is processed so that it is safe and refreshing drink, there was chilled and cool (warm). But the process is said not to use higienisasi chemical process to avoid changes in taste and content of this water.

    Zamzam water has no colour or smell, but it has a distinct taste, and its pH is 7.9-8.0, indicating that it is alkaline to some extent.

    Never changed the taste, no Algea or plant growth in the pond, thus no disease caused.

    Minerals Mass concentration as reported by researchers at King Saud University.[6]

        Sodium 133 mg/L (4.8×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Calcium 96 mg/L (3.5×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Magnesium 38.88 mg/L (1.405×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Potassium 43.3 mg/L (1.56×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Bicarbonate 195.4 mg/L (7.06×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Chloride 163.3 mg/L (5.90×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Fluoride 0.72 mg/L (2.6×10?8 lb/cu in)
        Nitrate 124.8 mg/L (4.51×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Sulfate 124.0 mg/L (4.48×10?6 lb/cu in)
        Total dissolve alkalinity 835 mg/L (3.02×10?5 lb/cu in)


    ZamZam Water And Medical science (urdu/ English)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWBeNwCFO7E

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #5 - January 30, 2014, 02:39 PM



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    Salaamun alaykum

    It is amazing that so many people believe that Zam Zam water has a Miraculous Healing Power in It.
    the First Time I went to Mecca in 1994 , I too, believed in the Magical Zam Zam . At the time I was abusing chemical substances and my Folks being a Good Sunni ( wahabi ) family with good Intentions, decided to take me along to the Holy land in Order to Cure me from My addiction . They firmly believed that, a Dayly Diet of Zam Zam Water and dates as well some Roasted camel meat will do the Trick  Roll Eyes .

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    Anyway , prior to leaving for Jeddah , I was prescribed Rohypnol Tablets to help me cope with the Withdrawal Symptoms and my physician advised me to take it with me where-ever I go ( good advice ) . Unfortunately, one of my brothers who came with us , Talked me out of Taking any Medication to Mecca as he Believes 100% that I would be cured just by being in the Holy Land and by Drinking Zam Zam Water every day   :brickwall:

    To cut the story short, It was to no avail, we spent 42 days in Mecca and Medina , 16 days of that I spent in the hospital with IntraVenous Tubes stuck up both arms plus heart monitor . so much for the Zam Zam Magic  Shocked


    As Brother Tanveer pointed out, Zam Zam water is From Reverse Osmosis and it has a distinc taste which to me felt like the After taste clinging to the roof of the mouth . eventhough took many showers at the Zam Zam water Depot, I did not get Cured from my then addiction . But at least that experience lead me to God only / Quran Muslim. The water obtained through Reverse Osmosis then allowed the Unsuspecting Muslims to believe That IT is a Special water, imho it is a Crime. Unfortunately, the Saudis kept silence when it comes to Miraculous Zam Zam water . Instead of Informing the Ummah that Zam zam is just a water like any other, the Saudis allowed this Deception to continue by their silence.

    I have since gone back to Mecca and Medina as an Individual Hajj just to Verify what I had learnt from the Quran regarding haj and Kaaba in 1994. also found out about The Reverse Osmosis Water . friends who have been living in Saudi informed that there are to Kinds of Desalinated Water, The One we Use for Ablution, bath etc which is a direct Desalinated Sea Water , whilst the other Is the Zam Zam which is also Desalinated Sea Water but Put Back into the Underground Reservoirs and Drawn back Up on the First In First out Basis . Hope this Helps.

    Cheers
    almarh0m.

     That guy is actually friend of CEMB   Cheesy  .. Let me push this Zam-Zam water towards real scientists..

    http://www.freenewspos.com/english/video/CNN/zj3KkB0NjvE

    let me add that link there. just to for fun.. it is fun to watch that link..

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #6 - January 30, 2014, 04:37 PM

    This is according to Masaru Emoto.


    he has a fake doctorate in 'alternative medicine' from a diploma mill.
    any fool can pay a couple of hundred dollars for a fake degree, but all it would prove is that you are fraud, who is not to be trusted.

    As for the rest of the claims, where is the evidence? The claims of some German doctor (who also works in Dubai) are useless.
    If there is evidence, then let him publish it in a proper scientific/medical journal. Only then can it be considered evidence.


  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #7 - January 30, 2014, 05:59 PM

    wait wait wait... so zam zam water is just regular sea water  Cheesy OMG this is even better than I thought!

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #8 - January 30, 2014, 05:59 PM

    So I found pictures of these crystals (I already lost the link  015) and it was part of bigger study.
    Regardless of the fact that whether the study was real or false, the Islamic waters/crystals didn't really stand out as different from the others. So that is quite clearly debunked though it didn't hold that much value anyways.

    I also agree with your opinion about that German.

    But more serious question is that how doesn't such small well dry up when millions drink out of it?

    I ask many stupid questions frequently.
    I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
    I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
    I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
    So forgive me and answer me Smiley
  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #9 - January 30, 2014, 06:34 PM

    But more serious question is that how doesn't such small well dry up when millions drink out of it?

    You know, back in 1971, they drilled into a cavern in Russia that started releasing large quantities of methane gas. They decided to burn the gas to stop its emission. To their surprise, the gas didn't burn out in a few days as they expected, nor in months nor years. In fact, it's burning to this day. They called it the Door to Hell. I'm more curious to know where all that gas is coming from than Zamzam water.

    I don't know if geologists got to examine the well, but I think Muslims would rather keep it all a mystery anyway. If there's a simple scientific explanation to why it doesn't dry out (which there is), I'm sure knowing it would only hurt their cause.
  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #10 - January 30, 2014, 06:43 PM

    So I found pictures of these crystals (I already lost the link  015) and it was part of bigger study.
     .......

    No..No don't get disappointed Siunaa_M ., we can get everything that is there on web.. here  you go..

    Scientists in Japan microscopically confirmed islam is the correct religion

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-WpxSKaz-I

    and that is the fellow .. There are plenty of snake oil sales man  running around with Ph.D .  dr. titles in Islam

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #11 - January 30, 2014, 06:48 PM

    You know, back in 1971, they drilled into a cavern in Russia that started releasing large quantities of methane gas. They decided to burn the gas to stop its emission. To their surprise, the gas didn't burn out in a few days as they expected, nor in months nor years. In fact, it's burning to this day. They called it the Door to Hell. I'm more curious to know where all that gas is coming from than Zamzam water.




    Methane is number one energy source of biological evolution on earth Toona., There must be more methane on earth  than that coal and oil together..

    Door to Hell  link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVpQnpWS2wU

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #12 - January 30, 2014, 06:58 PM

    King Abdullah Project produces 48 million cans of Zamzam water_2013   ARAB NEWSTuesday 30 July 2013


    Pilgrims take a refreshing drink of Zamzam water in Makkah
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    The King Abdullah bin Abdualziz Zamzam Water Project has produced more than 48 million cans of Zamzam water since its inception, meeting growing demand for the holy water. The project, which was implemented by the Ministry of Water and Electricity and overseen by the National Water Company, is one of the biggest projects for the provision and distribution of Zamzam water.

    The SR700 million project was established under the direction of Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah at his own expense. He has ordered the use of the latest global techniques and methods to obtain Zamzam water from the well.

    The water is drawn through stainless steel pumps and pipes. It goes through a filtering and purifying process without affecting its purity and taste. The plant includes four production lines with a maximum production capacity of 200,000 cans a day. It contains a central warehouse that accommodates 1.5 million cans, in addition to another warehouse being built to accommodate 200,000 cans. Zamzam water has become more accessible through easy-to-carry containers with a capacity of 10 liters.

    Some 42 points were set up for the distribution of the water automatically, in addition to another 16 points for its manual distribution to meet the demands of visitors and pilgrims at peak times and seasons.

    The project also pumps Zamzam water to the Two Holy Mosques. Last Ramadan more than 1,379,258 cubic meters was pumped to the Grand Mosque and 349,799 cubic meters to the Prophet’s Mosque. Meanwhile, preparations are under way to raise daily production capacity by 50 percent, whereas operational, maintenance, and purification, pumping, and distribution capacity have been raised by 120 percent.


    I wonder about the cost of those 10 liter cans and water bottles filled with zam -zam water

    48 million cans of Zamzam water since its inception  .. and the cost of the project is   SR700 million ..

    So 20 SR per can.  RASCALS made more money within a year by selling that water to folks ...

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #13 - January 30, 2014, 07:03 PM

    he has a fake doctorate in 'alternative medicine' from a diploma mill. ....

    well in Islam REAL DOCTORS are acting like fools dr_sloth., so it is not a big deal for scoundrels like that to fool Muslim folks with some silly Islamic miracles..

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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #14 - January 30, 2014, 08:11 PM

     NADEEM F. PARACHA  HITS OUT at fools that see modern science in Quran and..and he does that from Pakistan. let me pull some nuggets from his article.
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    The science of farce NADEEM F. PARACHA

    ......Before the late 1970s, Islamic science usually meant the exemplary work produced in the fields of mathematics, geometry, astronomy, chemistry and philosophy by a number of noted Muslim academics and scholars between the eighth and 14th century CE. In other words, it was about universal science practiced by objective men who also happened to be Muslims.

    "By the late 1970s, however, the whole idea about Islamic science began to disintegrate into utter farce. It largely began with a brain wave emitting from the oil-rich Saudi monarchy. Suspicious that Western education systems and models were producing free thinkers and secularists (or ideas that could threaten the theocratic basis of the monarchy’s power and hold); and repulsed and alarmed by the growth of revolutionary nationalism and socialism in the Muslim world (in the ’60s and ’70s), the Saudi government began pumping in ‘Petro-Dollars’ in projects designed to supposedly bring contemporary Islamic thought at par with western science."

    Quote
    ......the big Petro Dollars went into hiring ‘scientists’ whose job it was to generate evidence that ‘secular science and thought’ was inferior to ‘Islamic science.’ As a stream of handpicked Western, Pakistani and Arab scientists and doctors, lured by the promise of big bucks and perks, began making their way into the new-found institutions of ‘Islamic science’ in Saudi Arabia, nobody was quite sure exactly what ‘Islamic science’ really was or meant.......


    Maurice Bucaille was a French medical doctor, who in 1973 was appointed as the personal physician of Saudi monarch, King Faisal. Bucaille’s claims were based not on empirical observation, but rather on his uncritical acceptance of certain musings of some of the most conservative and inflexible ancient Muslim jurists.
    Quote
    Bucaille faced stern criticism from both Western and Muslim scientists, especially Muslim scientists who accused him of misleading Muslim youth and encouraging them to shun the conventional study of modern sciences just because everything that they needed to know about physics, chemistry, astronomy and biology was supposedly in the Quran.


     well read the rest at that link..  There are plenty of brave souls in that land.. More interesting  is reading comments under that article from land of Pure


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  • Zamzam water miracles
     Reply #15 - January 30, 2014, 08:21 PM

    There definitely could be something in the zam zam water that does something.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205

    In this BBC report, they say they found arsenic in zam zam water.
    I'm sure it has all kinds of different compounds. Some of which might have some impact on your health (good or bad).

    But ultimately no different than many other natural sources of water throughout the world.

    Kind of like that episode of the Simpsons where there is a gas leak and it makes people think the place is holy.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Goin%27_to_Praiseland

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