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 Topic: Dutch Guys are Trouble makers_Dutch Move To Ban Kosher, Halal Slaughter

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  • Dutch Guys are Trouble makers_Dutch Move To Ban Kosher, Halal Slaughter
     OP - July 04, 2011, 08:21 PM

    Dutch Guys are Trouble makers_ Dutch Move To Ban Kosher, Halal Slaughter

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    The looming ban stipulates that animals should be stunned before being slaughtered. Such a method, however, contradicts Jewish and Muslim slaughter rituals that require an animal to be conscious at the time of death.

    Supporters of the ban insist it is aimed at minimizing unnecessary pain and suffering by animals. Many Dutch Jews and Muslims, however, argue it would marginalize religious minorities.
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    The Netherlands, a nation of 16 million people, is home to more than 1 million Muslims and a 50,000-strong Jewish community.

    Kosher And Halal

    To make meat kosher or halal - according to Jewish and Muslim customs - an animal has to be killed by swiftly cutting its neck arteries and veins using a razor-sharp knife.

    Under the bill, which still requires approval by the Dutch Senate to become law, religious groups would be allowed to get an exception from the ban if they can scientifically prove their slaughter methods are less painful to animals than preliminary stunning.


    Two leading Jewish groups in Europe - the European Jewish Congress (EJC) and the Conference of European Rabbis (CER) - have announced they will seek to block the ban.

    The EJC said it will take legal action to argue that the “discriminatory law” violates freedom of religion. The CER has appealed to the Dutch Senate to reject the bill.

    “The practical effects of this bill mean that Jews are no longer welcome in the Netherlands. This has not happened for 60 years,” CER President Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt told Dutch media. Some Jewish community leaders in the Netherlands likened the ban to Nazi Germany’s closure of kosher abattoirs during World War II.

    Anti-Muslim Sentiments

    Similarly, many Dutch Muslims have condemned the bill as an attack on their religious customs. The parliament’s initial vote for the ban comes only days after a court in Amsterdam acquitted far-right politician Geert Wilders on charges of inciting hate and discrimination against Muslims.

    Wilders is known for his statements attacking Islam and portraying Muslim immigrants as a threat to Dutch culture.

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    Many Muslims and non-Muslims in the Netherlands believe that the ban on the ritual slaughter of animals targets Muslims, and in fact it reflects the rising anti-Muslim sentiments here,” says Touraj Atabaki, an Iranian-Dutch professor at the University of Amsterdam.

    “The target is probably the Muslim community, whose number has been on a constant rise in European countries in recent years," Atabaki says. "They have maintained their Islamic values, including dress codes. And they usually keep their distance from the rest of society and live inside their so-called colonies.


    "It bothers far-right politicians, who try to increasingly pressurize Islamic groups and Islamic societies, as we've recently seen in France and Austria.”

    'It's Only About Animal Welfare'

    Those behind the bill are adamant that their campaign has no other agenda or intention than protecting the welfare of animals.
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    The religious slaughter of livestock has so far been banned in Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland. Turkey is the first predominantly Muslim country where such a ban is being discussed in political circles.

    Well that is the news.. let us see the response., I hope it will not be as bad as Porphet's cartoons..

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Dutch Guys are Trouble makers_Dutch Move To Ban Kosher, Halal Slaughter
     Reply #1 - July 04, 2011, 08:42 PM

    Owwww.... I'm a trouble maker!  Cheesy Netherlands, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland. Belgium and France will soon follow. More trouble makers!

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Dutch Guys are Trouble makers_Dutch Move To Ban Kosher, Halal Slaughter
     Reply #2 - July 05, 2011, 03:36 AM

    Stunning is already mandatory here in Australia and the Halal-certifying authority here abides by it, although it is the reversible method, where the animal regains conciousness if not slaughtered quickly enough. Requires a very high degree of training and I haven't seen any evidence that the Muslim abattoir slaughter-men aren't.  

    For meat produced under certain contracts for markets like Saudi Arabia though, halal abattoirs are exempt from the regulatory stunning through the existence of a legal loophole, which is disgraceful imo.

    If it's the reversible stunning method that the dutch are making mandatory, then good on them.    
  • Re: Dutch Guys are Trouble makers_Dutch Move To Ban Kosher, Halal Slaughter
     Reply #3 - July 05, 2011, 01:27 PM


     For meat produced under certain contracts for markets like Saudi Arabia though, halal abattoirs are exempt from the regulatory stunning through the existence of a legal loophole,  which is disgraceful imo.

    If it's the reversible stunning method that the dutch are making mandatory, then good on them.    

    abz what you are saying there is "MONEY TALKS & OIL TALKS"...

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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