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  • Since when is Allah known as The Evolver
     OP - November 09, 2011, 08:54 AM

    So today I checked on 99 names of Allah, then I see that Al-Bari stands for 'The Evolver / The Fashioner / The Desinger'.

    I didn't remember 'The Evolver' being any of Allah's names. Does Al-Bari really do mean The Evolver? Is this seemingly new meaning a recent trend?  Huh?
  • Re: Since when is Allah known as The Evolver
     Reply #1 - November 09, 2011, 09:07 AM

    No, it means he comes from Bari. dance

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bari

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Since when is Allah known as The Evolver
     Reply #2 - November 09, 2011, 10:03 AM

    I always knew he was Italian
  • Re: Since when is Allah known as The Evolver
     Reply #3 - November 09, 2011, 07:52 PM

    I didn't know that 'al-Bari' means 'evolver'; I always thought of that as being 'al-Musawwar,' as in Surat Al 'Imran, verse 6:


    هُوَ ٱلَّذِي يُصَوِّرُكُمْ فِي ٱلأَرْحَامِ كَيْفَ يَشَآءُ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ ٱلْعَزِيزُ ٱلْحَكِيمُ


    He it is who forms you ('yusawwarukum,' verbal form of 'musawwar') in the wombs however he wills, there is no god but He, the Mighty, the Wise.

    Compare that with the verbal form of bari' in Q. 57:22:

    مَآ أَصَابَ مِن مُّصِيبَةٍ فِي ٱلأَرْضِ وَلاَ فِيۤ أَنفُسِكُمْ إِلاَّ فِي كِتَٰبٍ مِّن قَبْلِ أَن نَّبْرَأَهَآ

    No affliction befalls you in the earth nor in yourselves except that it is in a Book before we bring it into existence...

    It seems from the usages that 'musawwar' means 'evolver/former' while 'bari'' means something more like 'creator/originator,' wallahu 'alam. Incidentally, in the closely-related language of Hebrew, the cognates for these Arabic words, 'yetzirah' and 'bri'ah,' likewise refer to formation and creation, respectively.
  • Re: Since when is Allah known as The Evolver
     Reply #4 - November 09, 2011, 08:20 PM

    Al-Bari .. the maker...
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    Is this seemingly new meaning a recent trend?  

     it would seem so im afraid..  015 i could just imagine hearing "but Allah is the Evolver!!"..
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