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  • Mountains in Islam..
     OP - July 31, 2012, 06:45 PM

    Hmmm.. so was debating with someone about the scientific contradiction in Islam about mountains preventing Earthquakes and they came up with this piece:

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.S51E..08M

    ''Here we show that the San Gabriel Mountains partially insulate metropolitan Los Angeles from seismic waves generated by a major MW 7.5 earthquake on the San Andreas fault. The topography of the mountains scatter the surface waves generated by the rupture leading to less efficient excitation of basin-edge generated waves and natural resonances within the Los Angeles Basin.''

    His view was that the Quran does not mountains prevent earthquakes but just lessen the blow of Earthquakes. I mean what the heck? Anyone got any information on the study provided? As far I have researched, mountains do not in any way prevent or lessen Earthquakes.
  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #1 - July 31, 2012, 06:51 PM

    What does the verse in the Quran say Huh? it doesn't really matter, and yes the Mountains do soften the impact of an Earth Quake up to 50% but I think the Quran is talking about something else.

    Can u post the verses here.

    These are those verses I think:

    We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur'an, 21:31)

    Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs? (Quran, 78:6-7)

    [He] cast firmly embedded mountains on the earth so that it would not move under you… (Qur'an, 31:10)

    I think that is wrong.

    The Quran is wrong on this, the Mountains don't prevent the earth from moving, the earth still moves under the mountains and mountains don't prevent the earth from moving, it is just that the earth doesn't move as much around mountainous regions.

    here are some Vids

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT74OOMmnGI


  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #2 - July 31, 2012, 07:01 PM

    What does the verse in the Quran say Huh? it doesn't really matter, and yes the Mountains do soften the impact of an Earth Quake up to 50% but I think the Quran is talking about something else.

    Can u post the verses here.

    These are those verses I think:

    We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur'an, 21:31)

    Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs? (Quran, 78:6-7)

    [He] cast firmly embedded mountains on the earth so that it would not move under you… (Qur'an, 31:10)

    I think that is wrong.

    The Quran is wrong on this, the Mountains don't prevent the earth from moving, the earth still moves under the mountains and mountains don't prevent the earth from moving, it is just that the earth doesn't move as much around mountainous regions.

    here are some Vids

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT74OOMmnGI




    Yep and another verse is:


    "He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; ..."


    But the fact is, I haven't read anywhere online that states that mountains soften the impact of earthquakes apart from that one link provided. Seems a bit fishy to me. Where did you get the 50% figure from? Huh?
  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #3 - July 31, 2012, 07:12 PM

    @ ZOMG:

    I know I got the 50% from some Youtube Video, I can't remember which one exactly but it said that mountains don't prevent earthquakes and even those that soften the impact, some of them at most soften the impact up to 50%, I am not sure how accurate that is, I just know I saw it somewhere in some youtube Video.

    Anyways that is not even the point, the point is that the Quran is not saying the Mountains soften the earthquake impact, it says the mountains stop the earth from shaking and that is false, the Quran says that the earth under the mountains doesn't move because he has embedded the mountains in order to stop the earth from moving, it is irrelevant if the mountains soften the impact of the earth quake or not because the Quran doesn't state that.

    here is another vid and a better elaboration:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP5wUO2X2q0

  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #4 - July 31, 2012, 07:30 PM

    Put few rocks on a carpet and you'll understand.

    That's what Mo was thinking anyway.
  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #5 - July 31, 2012, 07:34 PM

    U have also some good materials on this webpage:

    http://islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Miracles-of-Quran-Exposed.htm#14

  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #6 - August 02, 2012, 09:40 AM

    Hmm.. on all that science in Quran such as (Shape of the earth;  Bulging of the pants(oops  earth);  Formation of the mountains; Every thing is created in pairs;  sun going in to the mud;  The piercing star  etc..etc..)  Nadeem   Paracha wrote a wonderful article on |  Science for the ummah .. let us read that a bit..

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    Recently an enterprising Pakistani engineer claimed to have invented a car that is powered by water. Excited by the news, Pakistan’s, nay, the whole Muslim ummah (and some North Korean’s) favourite scientist, Dr. Qadeem Khan, endorsed the invention and demanded that the automobile be called ‘Islamic car.’ Of course, there was the usual whining from liberal fascists/scum/extremists who ridiculed the glorious invention as a product of ‘pseudo-science’ and technical quackery. But we all know how these elements want the Muslim ummah to continue being subjugated, dominated and exploited by Western secular Judeo-Christian science.

    Little do they know that ever since the reign of the great caliph, General Ziaulul Haq, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is leading the way in the development, growth and potential dominance of ‘Islamic Science.’ No, this has nothing to do with those ancient Muslim philosophers, astronomers and chemists who were just too influenced by the science and scholarship of ancient wine-drinking Greek idolaters. This is about the real Islamic Science and it has already managed to stun the jealous secular Western Judeo-Christian world with a number of some stunning inventions. In theory at least.

    Here are some of them …



     
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    Since car hoti hai (it’s a she), the Al-Car cannot be taken out on the road without a cover. Drivers are required to use their instincts to navigate and if they are pious, angels are likely to help them in this regard. The Al-Car does not use conventional fuel. It uses water. But since Pakistan does not want to harm brotherly country Saudi Arabia’s oil economy, the inventers of Al-Car have made sure that it only runs on Aab-e-Zamzam that is only available in brotherly Saudia.

    At first the Al-Car will only be made available to the ummah. That is, of course, only to the men of the ummah. However, there will be ample space for women in the trunk.

    Pakistan plans to unveil – unveil in the figurative sense, of course – this auto marvel as soon as the government dishes out a billion dollars to the inventor and releases Arsalan Iftikhar so this young dynamic Muslim entrepreneurial genius can help the inventor build a profitable (interest-free) production plant.

    Preferably in Monte Carlo – after it has been conquered by General Zaid Hamid and after its population is converted (live on TV) by Mujahidan Mayan Khanam.


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    Genie Energy (and/or Electricity from Jinns)



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    This just has to be the most exciting and unique project of holy science: Deriving electricity from genies (jinns).

    This brilliant theory was first presented by a brilliant Somalian alchemist, Dr. Mabuto bin Kambata in 1985 AD.

    After being ridiculed by secular Western Judeo-Christian scientists and pagan African witch doctors, bin Kambata escaped to Pakistan where he was given sanctuary by Khalifa Ziaulul Haq.

    Bin Kambata soon convinced Ziaulul to hold an international seminar and conference on Islamic Science.

    With lots of Saudi aid to kill but not enough electricity, Ziaulul agreed and the conference was held in Islamabad. Over a thousand modern-day alchemists and scientists from the Muslim world were invited – except Dr. Parvez Hoodbhoy – he’s such a Western secular Judeo-Christian spoilsport.

    The highlight of the conference was, of course, a model of Dr. Mabuto bin Kambata’s generator built to summon jinns and derive vital volts of electricity from them.

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    Dr. Mabuto bin Kambata’s generator built to summon jinns and derive vital volts of electricity from them.





    Halal-o-Meter he Halal-o-Meter can be a terrific asset for the true believer. All he/she has to do is dip the meter in the mouthwash/perfume/toothpaste/etc






    The Adulterilator (and/or the Automatic Adulteress Crusher) Concerned by the rising cases of adultery (by women), gallant and brave (but nimble-tongued) Pakistani physicist, Sangsar Abbasi, has claimed to have invented a ‘smart stone throwing machine.’ Calling it the Adulterilator, Sangsar says the machine (made from wood from fine Saudi date palms) has special sensors that can detect adulteresses (and even potential adulteresses) and throw stones and boulders at them.






    HAARP Repulser HAARP is The United States’ High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program – an ionospheric research programme jointly funded by the US Air Force, the Navy, the University of Alaska, the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency and the secular Western Judo-Karate villains.   A group of Übermensch ummah scientists in Pakistan have created a powerful project to counter HAARP.





    First camel on the moon..  A group of Pakistani aeronautical engineers (actually weathermen) claim that they have found a way to go to the moon. They say that since the secular Western Judeo-Christians have already managed to put a man on the moon, they will go a step further by landing the first camel on the moon. ‘This will also be in line with our Arab aesthetics and tradition,’ one engineer explained.

    Read it all at the link............

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Mountains in Islam..
     Reply #7 - August 02, 2012, 10:56 AM

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