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Birmingham protests
OP - September 21, 2012, 06:42 PM

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/birmingham-news/2012/09/21/protests-in-birmingham-against-american-anti-islam-film-97319-31883268/

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Re: Birmingham protests
Reply #1 - September 21, 2012, 06:45 PM

All I saw in that link was coppers and onlookers and no protesters :S

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Reply #2 - September 21, 2012, 06:52 PM

Don't they have anything else to do -_-
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Reply #3 - September 21, 2012, 06:57 PM

Best way to keep extremist muslim protesters at bay is if the police take a few notes from Lady Gaga and wear suits made out of bacon and pork chops. Forget your billyclubs just have a leg of smoked ham instead

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Reply #4 - September 21, 2012, 07:07 PM

Quote from: Yume89 on September 21, 2012, 06:52 PM
Don't they have anything else to do -_-

If they had,they wouldn't be protesting,this is their way of convincing the world that they are important!

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Reply #5 - September 21, 2012, 07:10 PM

^ Like children
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Reply #6 - September 21, 2012, 07:13 PM

Birmingham is one of the biggest hubs of Salafism not just in Britain but in Europe. You have no idea until you've spent time there. No surprise that the angry beards decided to protest. Bear in mind that most Muslims in Brum are Pakistani, and in Pakistan today, the government called a national holiday to protest the film, and riots left 19 people dead. Pakistan was basically on heat and via TV, social networks and so on, this will have transmitted to Birmingham, and given the Salafis there itchy beards, and a feeling that they just have to do something, anything, to also protest this evil against the prophet too.

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A West Midlands Police statement read: "Shops and businesses in the city remain open although some have taken the decision to temporarily limit access to their premises.

"West Midlands Police have no power to ban a static protest – in fact the right to protest peacefully is a sign of a healthy democracy and we have a positive duty to facilitate that right."

Well done to plod

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Reply #7 - September 21, 2012, 07:29 PM

19 people got killed in Pakistan in riots? That is terrible, who were they?
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Reply #8 - September 21, 2012, 07:36 PM

Not sure who the dead are, whether protestors or innocent people caught up in their vandalism and violence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19678412

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Reply #9 - September 21, 2012, 07:54 PM

Amateurs!

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One for the hang 'em and flog 'em brigade
I was disputing the argument that someone should be shot for treason in the Bradley Manning thread, when I remembered that people can conceive of a worse deterrent than death for the guilty person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_fa...exterminations

From the Ming (1368–1644) and Qing (1644–1912) Dynasties onward, the extent to which those within the family were exterminated was increased. Under the Hongwu Emperor (r. 1368 – 98), those committing rebellion and treason were punished by having their parents, grandparents, brethren (by birth, as well as "sworn brothers"), children, grandchildren, those living with the criminal regardless of surname, uncles and the children of brethren put to death, as well as death themselves by slow slicing or lingchi.

Crikey.

PS 1912 was only just under 100 years ago ...

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Reply #10 - September 21, 2012, 09:25 PM

Quote from: billy on September 21, 2012, 07:13 PM
..No surprise that the angry beards decided to protest. ...

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Reply #11 - September 21, 2012, 09:51 PM

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #12 - September 21, 2012, 11:46 PM

Quote from: billy on September 21, 2012, 07:13 PM

Birmingham is one of the biggest hubs of Salafism not just in Britain but in Europe. You have no idea until you've spent time there. No surprise that the angry beards decided to protest.

I can't remember who but before going to England someone told me that Birmingham is full of Muslims. That's why I decided not to go there. Lol but then I decided to go to Manchester where I thought I went back to my country

I wish Europe could kick out
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Reply #13 - September 22, 2012, 12:24 AM

The salafis would be better off living in a salafi-friendly country, I agree

Britain, which is a liberal secular democracy is the opposite of all that they value and they will never change that.

Most Muslims are integrated or on the path to integration members of British society and over time will liberalise and secularise, I feel.

We just need to keep making the case for liberalism, secularism and free conscience so that these wheels keep turning.

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Reply #14 - September 22, 2012, 12:32 AM

^ I wonder if that's possible It seems to me that salafism will always exist, because the books are available. Anyone can turn himself into a salafi when they have the books even in the most secular societies..
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Reply #15 - September 22, 2012, 12:35 AM

That is true. We need to respond to them, and stand up for secular values in the same way we would against any ideology that is inimical to secularism and liberal freedoms and free conscience. We define ourselves in part against bigotry and religious exceptionalism.

Its up to us. Our values are greater than theirs.

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Re: Birmingham protests
Reply #16 - September 22, 2012, 12:49 AM

Yes. I got it! Thank you!
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Reply #17 - September 22, 2012, 02:20 PM

Quote from: Yume89 on September 21, 2012, 11:46 PM

I wish Europe could kick out

I feel the same way as you alot of the time too. But then I think that if they banned muslim immigration my family could never have come to "insert my western country" and I would have had to live as an atheist in an islamic country.

Now that would have been a real nightmare.

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