Skip navigation
Sidebar -

Advanced search options →

Welcome

Welcome to CEMB forum.
Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email?

Donations

Help keep the Forum going!
Click on Kitty to donate:

Kitty is lost

Recent Posts


Do humans have needed kno...
Today at 03:21 PM

Random Islamic History Po...
by zeca
Yesterday at 01:09 PM

Lights on the way
by akay
January 30, 2026, 02:46 PM

What music are you listen...
by zeca
January 29, 2026, 09:20 PM

New Britain
by zeca
January 27, 2026, 08:45 AM

Qur'anic studies today
by zeca
January 23, 2026, 12:21 PM

ركن المتحدثين هايد بارك ل...
by akay
January 18, 2026, 02:48 PM

Is Iran/Persia going to b...
by zeca
January 18, 2026, 08:49 AM

What's happened to the fo...
January 09, 2026, 12:03 PM

Excellence and uniqueness
by akay
January 05, 2026, 10:14 AM

Marcion and the introduct...
by zeca
November 05, 2025, 11:34 PM

Ex-Muslims on Mythvision ...
by zeca
November 02, 2025, 07:58 PM

Theme Changer

 Topic: Appreciating Klingschor's Video.

 (Read 31816 times)
  • Previous page 1 2« Previous thread | Next thread »
  • Appreciating Klingschor's Video.
     Reply #30 - December 09, 2012, 01:17 PM

    But you say "William Muir's biography of Muhammad  is  tainted by Christian bigotry" ., then  don't you think that  you should put him in to the bigot's list .. not in to other group ??


    He was a pioneering Islamologist and his work still has value as a synthesis of Islamic sources; hence his inclusion to the list.
  • Appreciating Klingschor's Video.
     Reply #31 - December 09, 2012, 01:30 PM

    He was a pioneering Islamologist and his work still has value as a synthesis of Islamic sources; hence his inclusion to the list.

     well you may call him "pioneering CHRISTIAN Islamologist".. whatever Islamologist means.,  True he took whatever written in hadith & sunnah  and put his Christian  glasses to write that book but the fact he says statements like   these means

    Quote
    "Muhammad had fallen under the influence of Satanic inspiration"

    "First: Polygamy, Divorce, and Slavery strike at the root of public morals, poison domestic life, and disorganise society; while the Veil removes the female sex from its just position and influence in the world. Second: freedom of thought and private judgment are crushed and annihilated. Toleration is unknown, and the possibility of free and liberal institutions foreclosed. Third: a barrier has been interposed against the reception of Christianity."

    in his book,  he was just analyzing so called Islamic historical Muhammad from what was written  in hadith and Sunnah by so called Islamic intellectuals of earlier times.  Suppose you remove those two sources and take Muhammad character just from Quran , then we will have entirely different story on Muhammad.

    Any way this subject is quite complex..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Appreciating Klingschor's Video.
     Reply #32 - March 05, 2013, 08:44 PM

    Klingschor is awesome!




    That nurse apparently committed suicide.




    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Previous page 1 2« Previous thread | Next thread »