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OP - September 21, 2013, 07:38 PM

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2013/0920/The-Muslims-Are-Coming!-often-derails-into-irrelevancy
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Reply #1 - September 21, 2013, 08:06 PM

I think the simple fact is that if all muslims were ‘jihadists’ then the world would be fucked, since there are over a billion muslims worldwide! In fact 23% of the world’s population are muslims.
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Reply #2 - September 21, 2013, 08:12 PM

It's ridiculous that Americans, both Muslims and Non-Muslims, are still obsessed with this.

Yes not all Muslims are terrorists, of course not. Can we fucking move past this one point already? Can we move on to a more nuanced discussion yet?

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Reply #3 - September 21, 2013, 09:02 PM

Americans wouldn't be obsessed with this if Jihadis didn't attempt or carry terrorist attacks on U.S. soil for the last 12 years. Before 9/11 we didn't give a crap.
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Reply #4 - September 21, 2013, 09:07 PM

^ Interesting. Because there still WERE attempts, including one on the WTC, before 9/11. Is this typical of America as a culture, then, to care only once something directly happens to them (e.g. WWII)?
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Reply #5 - September 21, 2013, 09:22 PM

You are correct Kodanshi.
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Reply #6 - September 23, 2013, 03:17 PM

Quote from: Kodanshi on September 21, 2013, 09:07 PM
^ Interesting. Because there still WERE attempts, including one on the WTC, before 9/11. Is this typical of America as a culture, then, to care only once something directly happens to them (e.g. WWII)?

But how many of those attempts were widely known?
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Reply #7 - September 23, 2013, 03:40 PM

Very well known: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/26/newsid_2516000/2516469.stm
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Reply #8 - September 23, 2013, 04:22 PM

Quote from: kutta on September 23, 2013, 03:17 PM
But how many of those attempts were widely known?

the 93 attack is pretty widely known. Maybe not in the reality TV show segment of the population but anyone who's done a midge of investigation would.

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Reply #9 - September 23, 2013, 04:38 PM

U.S. hostage crisis in Iran in 1980?

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`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
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Reply #10 - September 23, 2013, 06:13 PM

These various pre-9/11 incidents were small enough and isolated enough that they could be treated like flea bites on the national corpus, momentarily irritating but soon forgotten. All of that changed with 9/11. The "sleeping giant" awoke and turned its gaze on Islam - and it didn't much like what it saw. Since then people have been watching "the religion of peace" more closely and counting the bodies that it daily drops at our feet.

I don't really think the average American can be blamed too much for not seeing the gathering storm, few people did. Like most people, Americans didn't really pay much attention to the threat from Islam until it touched them personally in a way that they couldn't ignore and simply return to their comfortable, isolationist slumbers. They had, after all, for several decades past, had their capitalist controlled governments spending vast time and resources on propaganda to focus all their attention on the "communist threat" instead. (btw. I'm not a communist.)

In this modern information age any of us who took upon our own shoulders all the pain and suffering that the news wires bring us without filtering most of it out, creating our own safe little mental bubble, would soon become insane. For some people the filter doesn't work completely and they adopt causes that don't really affect them, or us, directly. Most of us probably know someone who has taken up a pet cause which they bang on about at every and all opportunities, and most of us regard these people, if we're feeling charitable, as at least a little bit eccentric and perhaps even as a bit loopy. (I won't even raise the possibility that, perhaps, we are these people!) Most of us hope that the troubles of the World won't affect us if we keep our heads down, get on with our lives and don't go around poking sleeping tigers with a sharp stick. That doesn't necessarily make us cowards or fools, we just know that there are limits to the pain and distress that we can bear and we would rather not test those limits to the breaking point if we can reasonably, and sometimes a little unreasonably, avoid it.
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Reply #11 - September 24, 2013, 03:11 PM

Well stated sirderam.
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