I'm not saying that is what I believe - but only that there maybe an explantion we simply can't comprehend.
I can understand the temptation to say 'This is how I see it with my logic and reason and I see no evidence for a God' - but I can't help thinking that there may be a life after death and a level of existence where one will realise that the logic and reason we used on this plane was only one tiny dimension of a much greater reality.
The truth is I simply don't know - anything.
Which is why I have a problem with atheism - because it is so sure of itself.
I can't see that there is anything to be sure of at all.
Personally I do not believe in any gods. I consider that that makes me an atheist. Can I with the information available today completely deny the presence of a god? No I don't feel so, and in that way I'm agnostic. I have no problems stating that I'm both, cause I sincerely do not believe in any gods, but at the same time I can't be 100 % sure. What I feel many at this forum tend to think is that there's a heck lot of different depiction of a god, which we can deny to exist. So I have a feeling that you also consider that you can be sure of that
I consider myself a strong atheist as Dawkins considers himself a strong atheist, not an 100 % atheist, cause with the information at hand today we cannot completely rule out the possibillity, it just seems highly improbable.
And I agree with KT that it's difficult to discuss the questio of a god unless one makes the effort to try to gives this god some attributes.
Finally I personally have no qualms with deists at all, non other than the relaxed philosophical chit-chats. The important thing is that there's no 'dogma', no projection of rules of society to some deity. We all agree to cooperate to make the best of the situation from our collective ideas and thoughts.
There maybe explanations beyond our present understanding. I've heard some people talk about God being part of and in all creation - and that our separateness is an illusion and that we are all one - parts of the divine.
As far as I've read of some vedic philosophy that's a central idea of the religious institution (and othe asian religious groups) we call hinduism (now of course as in any other religious institutions there's tons of different interpretations; ie. different sects have different "highgods"); here the notion of 'atman' is our percieved illusion of the material world, when we make a proper understandment of the world and all we get "saved" back to 'Brahma' (the universal soul). The other's (me) get's to reborn again and again, also in the following universe build by Brahma after this one has been destroyed by Siva (this repeats itself
) Erhm... well you can read a lot of different interpretation and philosophies of these ideas and concepts.
Topic: Is there a God?