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  • Towards Atheism - New Member
     OP - April 26, 2011, 07:31 PM

    Hi!

    My name is Grouchy and I am an ex-muslim since a year back.

    Islam has had a big impact on me from day one. It has not only shaped my views regarding theistic topics but also the way of thinking and acting in my everyday life. Islam is very unique in that sense that it branches out to your very core, it becomes infused with your inner-self that once you come to question it you have to question the very nature you are.

    I was brought up by a lonely parent, my mother, since my father died when I was at the age of two.
    My mother was always over-protective to the degree that she dedicated her whole life for me and my younger brother. Wherever she went, there we were. When her friends wanted her to go on a trip and prompted her to leave us at our grandparents' house, she would refuse. Either we go or nobody goes. My mother knew early on that she couldn't keep us out of harms way for too long, one day we will be let loose and the pitfalls of life will surely get her two little angels. So she adopted the notion of the greatest babysitter of all time, God. My mother was never religious before the death of my father. He even refused her to wear the hijab on several occasions. He was a free spirit as I often would hear by my other relatives when I grew up. My mother however was a very fearful soul. She always feared I remember. The electric bill, the school annual payment, the neighbours' talk, and most importantly God.

    Fear, fear, fear. Fear your God. Because you are small, he is big. You are dumb, he is wise. You are nothing, while he is everything. This idea of fear followed me throughout my early teens. I even remember till this day how I often used to be traumatized by the feeling I got after each time I masturbated, even though I tried not masturbate, I really did. The idea of God and his prophet watching me masturbate was almost worse than the punishment itself. Till this day I remember the feeling of going to sleep without praying the five compulsory prayers. It was said to me that God took your soul each time you went to sleep, and he returned it to you the very next day. The agonizing thought of the almighty God scrutinizing my very being was hell for me. But it didn't stop there. The prophet Muhammed also had to get in on it. Each Thursday he would examine the actions of every Muslim on this earth. You might sit there and fringe at the idea of such ludicrous notions, but I promise you that they felt more real than my very right hand.

    Sadly, those who didn't grow up with Islam will never understand the naïve rudimentary thought process of a young person regarding religion. You could have been told that God and Muhammed played checkers on Sundays with every Muslim soul on earth and a child would not have thought of it any less than judgement day. Everything about Muhammed was true. Simple. No questions. It just was. The way he walked, the way he talked, the way he justified things, the way he demanded things. Who are you to say no?

    How did I liberate myself from this fear then, and ultimately see Islam for what it is?

    The process of liberation is a long and hard journey. Read outside of your realm of comfort is my advice. Please don't listen to any sheik, mullah or even your parents. Read the source.

    I freed myself by simply focusing on the must outrageous part in Islam, Hell. I remember till this day the moment I was liberated. It took one sentence for me.

    How could someone be punished for eternity for a finite crime? I asked.
    Nobody answered. 

    Thank you for taking your time to read.

    Sincerely,

    Grouchy

    Grouchy  what is the  good reason for picking up an innocent girl  as Osama  bin Laden?    

  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #1 - April 26, 2011, 08:49 PM

    Welcome to the forum. Very nice introduction indeed! After studying  the Koran and learning what I know about Allah, even if he is the one true god, the ultimate truth, I'd rather burn in his hell than be with him in heaven. He is such an insecure, arrogant, pathetic, and immature lil whore.  Phwoar I am glad you were able to free yourself from this retarded ideology.

    ENJOY   Afro

    Man created God in his image : intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent.
  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #2 - April 26, 2011, 08:52 PM

    There'll be a number of variations on this during your time here, but let me be the first to try:

     Hi mate, are you always Grouchy?
     I'm Grouchy too today.
     Does your girlfriend feel Grouchy everytime she gets horny?

    Sorry, can't think of a funny ones, but I thought I'd list those nonetheless  Smiley

    Anyways, good to have you on board. You describe really well the conflict and the fear that many of us felt when we were muslims. It good that you wrote this down for us whilst it is still fresh in your mind... Afro

    Your dad sounded like a real hero. It sounds like your mum tried to do the best she could with you kids once he was gone. For her, that meant turning more towards Islam and taking you kids with her...   Have you hinted at your apostasy to her or to your brother? ..

    Hi
  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #3 - April 26, 2011, 09:34 PM

    Welcome Grouchy!

    Fear, fear, fear. Fear your God.

    I have heard this same thing so many times. Isn't it sad that the first thing Muslim associate Allah with is fear?
  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #4 - April 26, 2011, 10:07 PM

    Hypexmuslim:

    Well thank you for your thoughtful welcoming! As I see you are yourself a new member, I welcome you to this forum as well Smiley

    Musivore:

    Hahaha! I knew I was going to eat up my choice of name. I am grouchy in that sense that your little brother could be grouchy... you know, in a cute way. (I hope the ladies are taking notes Wink)

    Regarding my mother, she is actually not as religious as she was back in those days. What is saddening about her story, yet uplifting, is that she has drifted towards atheism more and more in her actions, but she still believes in the sake of believing. As Daniel Dennett would put it she believes in the believing of God. She has almost become contradictory in her nature at an older age. She doesn't pray five times a day any more, yet when I confront her about that she tells me she prays in her own little way, and that God will listen to her in that sense. She still wares the hijab because she has done it for such a long time. Yet, surprisingly when I confront her in the lack of hadith regarding the hijab, she agrees with me, hijab is unnecessary. What can I do she tells me? The hijab has been a part of her for so long now. That is really the saddening thing about religion in general as I remarked in my first post. It is more relevant in the case of my mother how much religion is welded to your very being. That even when you see the irrationality in it you can not let go of it.

    Rationality, in my mother's case, would be like sticking a knife in your heart to get out the bullet that is Islam. It is just not worth it.

    Kenan:

    Exactly. It monstrously evolves into fear IS your God.




    Grouchy  what is the  good reason for picking up an innocent girl  as Osama  bin Laden?    

  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #5 - April 27, 2011, 02:29 AM

    Welcome to the forum, Grouchy. victory

    So she adopted the notion of the greatest babysitter of all time, God.

    LOL.  Very true.  I have long maintained that religion is the ultimate tool of control/power/status.  But once people realise that God is an illusion, it becomes a toothless tiger.

    The process of liberation is a long and hard journey. Read outside of your realm of comfort is my advice. Please don't listen to any sheik, mullah or even your parents. Read the source.

    Afro

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #6 - April 27, 2011, 05:05 AM

    Welcome, '
    It's only right that I return the greetings,  Wink.

        and it's a pleasure to meet one as intelligent as yourself. I especially liked the question "how can one be punished for eternity for a finite crime?" I really never thought of it that way.

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  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #7 - April 27, 2011, 05:51 AM

    ateapotist

    Thanks!

    Sherif-ET

    Well, that is honourable of you sir Smiley

    I find these simple questions the more intriguing ones concerning religion. Hopefully with my, and your, presence here we can make at the very least a statement that ex-muslims do exist, and that they are rational human beings not some deluded madmen as the Quran so “eloquently” likes to put it. 

    Grouchy  what is the  good reason for picking up an innocent girl  as Osama  bin Laden?    

  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #8 - April 27, 2011, 06:38 AM

    Of course, although I find that with irrational people they always have an irrational simple response. For example in response to your question from before, my parents would say "God is vengeful, and we as humans couldn't begin to possibly understand him." But what used to work on me as a child, makes me chuckle as an (almost) adult.  Afro

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  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #9 - April 27, 2011, 12:29 PM

    signwelcome

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  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #10 - April 27, 2011, 01:12 PM

    Welcome  Smiley

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    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #11 - April 27, 2011, 01:15 PM


    Rationality, in my mother's case, would be like sticking a knife in your heart to get out the bullet that is Islam. It is just not worth it.



    I like the words you've used to describe that...I have a wife who needs the same operation; but I don't have the heart, nor the skill, to perform it.

    Hi
  • Re: Towards Atheism - New Member
     Reply #12 - January 31, 2012, 02:58 PM

     pccoffee was intro scrolling.. i missed this one ..
    better late ... well..

    hi and welcome ...
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