The Vatican vs. Amnesty International

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The Vatican vs. Amnesty International
OP - May 18, 2009, 02:35 PM

My Catholic friend thinks the Vatican has done way more for the world than Amnesty International.

Discuss.
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Re: The Vatican vs. Amnesty International
Reply #1 - May 18, 2009, 03:49 PM

Its true.

Amnesty International is only a talking shop.

Whereas the Pope has teeth.

His Holiness can bite.

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Re: The Vatican vs. Amnesty International
Reply #2 - May 18, 2009, 04:19 PM

Quote from: heartbomb on May 18, 2009, 02:35 PM
My Catholic friend thinks the Vatican has done way more for the world than Amnesty International.

Discuss.

Rubbish!

Amnesty stops the death sentence of criminals who IMO deserve death. Again, my opinion is subjective & most people don't think there should be any death for any offense.

Vatican indirectly causes the death of innocent people who have sex without condoms or who are unfortunate enough to marry an AIDS ridden husband\rarely AIDS ridden wife.

In terms of simply effect(ignoring the ethical side of effect) Vatican does seem to do more. Fact.

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Re: The Vatican vs. Amnesty International
Reply #3 - May 18, 2009, 08:21 PM

The Vatican has given a huge contribute to literature and art.
And it helped preserve a good deal of Roman and Greek texts, in spite of censorship.

So, if we ignore the atrocities, the Vatican has probably done way more for humanity than Amnesty International. But that's mostly due to its longevity.

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Re: The Vatican vs. Amnesty International
Reply #4 - May 18, 2009, 10:40 PM

I'd agree with Tlaloc here. Note the stipulations about ignoring atrocities and the Church's longevity though. I'm quite sure that after Amnesty international has been around for a millennium and a half it will have done more good (and committed less atrocities).

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Re: The Vatican vs. Amnesty International
Reply #5 - May 19, 2009, 04:13 AM

I probably should have made myself more clear.

He claimed that charity-wise (giving money to the poor and not profiteering) the Vatican has done so more than Amnesty, and that Amnesty uses it's lobbying to claim profits.
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