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  • What could Sheytanism look like?
     OP - June 05, 2009, 01:16 PM

    In areas dominated by Christianity, there is a phenomenon called "Satanism". People that don't believe in a god, feel oppressed by the presence of the church and Christian doctrine and make up their own religion that (while mainly not rooted in any belief in the supernatural) mocks the Christian belief by using Christian symbolism, stories and rituals by modifying them and using them their own way: Upside-down crucifix, literally drink blood and eat flesh, using the image of a horned deity, etc.

    What could Sheytanism look like? What islamic symbols, ideas and traditions would be used and in what way would they be modified?

  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #1 - June 05, 2009, 01:19 PM

    Rather than shagging under-age girls we could shag over-age women? Tongue
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #2 - June 05, 2009, 01:47 PM

    Rather than shagging under-age girls we could shag over-age women? Tongue


    Lmao awesome.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #3 - June 05, 2009, 02:04 PM

    As the bible gave clues about satan, we too would need to look at out scriptures to get an idea about sheytaan.

    Here are some clues:

    1)  Farts during adhan
    2)  Pisses into people ears in the morning

    does anyone know anymore?

    So far I am getting an idea that it could be

    It cant be.

    Surely, it can't be Homer Simpson, can it???

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #4 - June 05, 2009, 02:12 PM

    Here are some clues:

    1)  Farts during adhan
    2)  Pisses into people ears in the morning

    does anyone know anymore?

    Eating with the left hand. The ones about satan are so stupid though, we may as well act like a bunch of anti-social 5 years olds, that would be Islam's shaytanism.
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #5 - June 05, 2009, 02:20 PM

    As the bible gave clues about satan, we too would need to look at out scriptures to get an idea about sheytaan.

    Here are some clues:

    1)  Farts during adhan
    2)  Pisses into people ears in the morning

    does anyone know anymore?


    Yawning is from Satan,
    During sleep, Satan ties three knots at the back of the head
    A good dream comes from Allah, a bad dream is from Satan.
    Satan interrupts prayer

    Knowing Islam is the only true religion we do not allow propagation of any other religion. How can we allow building of churches and temples when their religion is wrong? Thus we will not allow such wrong things in our countries. - Zakir Naik
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #6 - June 05, 2009, 02:41 PM

    Yazidis

    The Yazidis worship 'the angel who didn't bow down to Adam', represented by a peacock. They pray three times a day, towards the sun (haram), at the times when it's forbidden to pray: sunrise, zenith, and sunset. There's a hadith that forbids praying at sunrise, muhammad (saw) says something about it being between the horns of shaytan. They believe in God, the creator of the universe, but that God put Malak Ta'us (their name for Iblees, meaning 'Peacock Angel') in charge of the world.

    (They also claim to not be descended from Adam and Eve like the rest of us humans, only from Adam's sperm in a pot turned into a man who married a houri Grin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi#The_Belief)

    Iblis in Sufism

    See also Kitabi Tawasin of Mansur al-Hallaj,

    Summary of relevant chapter 'Tasin of Before Endless Time and Equivocation':

    Quote
    ? There was no worshipper or monotheist in Heavens like Iblis. He didn?t
    consider Adam or Man worthy of prostration, as God alone commanded the
    right to worship. His staunch belief in God?s majesty, pure and exclusive,
    stopped him from obeying God?s command to bow before Adam.
    ? Iblis considered both God and himself to predate the creation of Man, and the
    progenitor cannot worship the successor.
    ? Iblis preferred being distanced from God and dethroned from his supreme
    spiritual ranks than to worship anyone else than God. For him, desertion from
    God meant His companionship, a distance that brings him nearer to
    appreciating God?s uniqueness: ?there is no one capable of being worshipped
    other than God.?
    ? Dialogue between Moses (AS) and Iblis Iblis met Moses (AS) on Mount Sinai
    and what ensued was an interchange of questions and rejoinders. Moses claims
    that Iblis had sinned by refusing the Command of God. Iblis retorts that it
    wasn?t a command, rather a test, which he faired well. Moses, on the other
    hand, as Iblis argues, was unsure and wavering in his faith when he asked for a
    manifest show of Divine effulgence before his eyes. The levels of trust of Iblis
    and Moses can now be very easily compared!
    ? Iblis claims that although he is a wretched, disfigured creature, yet his outward
    misery does not reflect his inner purity and firm belief in the Unique Unity of
    God.
    ? Iblis is still a firm believer in God and worships God as He Is.
    ? Iblis?s refusal to find partners with god speaks of his pristine love for the
    Creator. He prefers burning in hellfire than making equals to Him.
    ? Azazyl is the name of Iblis before his downfall.
    ? Azazyl preached good deeds to the dwellers of Heaven and evil deeds to the
    dwellers on earth. He had to teach vice so that virtue could become
    recognizable.
    ? Dialogue between Iblis, Pharaoh and Hallaj Iblis was proud as he couldn?t
    find anyone comparable with himself in piety and virtue. Pharaoh didn?t
    believe in Moses (AS) and declared himself to be of the highest rank, because
    he assumed his people had lost the capacity to distinguish between truth and
    falsehood. Hallaj then goes on to claim that he is a sign (tajalli) of God?s
    presence.
    ? Iblis, Pharaoh and Halaj ultimately share similar destinies. Iblis was threatened
    of fire but he didn?t take back his declaration and was subject to humiliation.
    Pharaoh continued his denial of Truth and was drowned to death. Hallaj will
    also be crucified, but he will not step down from his proclamation.
    ? Iblis is a martyr who became a means to God?s writ being executed.
    ? Iblis?s plight is confusing, because despite his unmatched Unitarianism, he fell
    victim to the evil of conceit: ?I am made of fire and Adam is made only of
    clay?.


    eta: My best guess at the etymology of the name Iblees is from the Greek 'Diabolos'.  dance

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #7 - June 05, 2009, 03:12 PM

  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #8 - June 05, 2009, 03:18 PM

    On the West the goat is associated with the devil, in islam, I wonder which animal should we pick.

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #9 - June 05, 2009, 03:20 PM

    Yazidis

    The Yazidis worship 'the angel who didn't bow down to Adam', represented by a peacock. They pray three times a day, towards the sun (haram), at the times when it's forbidden to pray: sunrise, zenith, and sunset. There's a hadith that forbids praying at sunrise, muhammad (saw) says something about it being between the horns of shaytan. They believe in God, the creator of the universe, but that God put Malak Ta'us (their name for Iblees, meaning 'Peacock Angel') in charge of the world.

    (They also claim to not be descended from Adam and Eve like the rest of us humans, only from Adam's sperm in a pot turned into a man who married a houri Grin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi#The_Belief)

    That is super rich. wow.

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #10 - October 18, 2009, 10:14 PM

    On the West the goat is associated with the devil, in islam, I wonder which animal should we pick.


    I want to claim the wild boar.

    Not only cute and funloving:



    But sexy:

  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #11 - October 18, 2009, 10:17 PM

    On the West the goat is associated with the devil, in islam, I wonder which animal should we pick.

    the dirty Jew

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #12 - October 18, 2009, 11:59 PM

    In areas dominated by Christianity, there is a phenomenon called "Satanism". People that don't believe in a god, feel oppressed by the presence of the church and Christian doctrine and make up their own religion that (while mainly not rooted in any belief in the supernatural) mocks the Christian belief by using Christian symbolism, stories and rituals by modifying them and using them their own way: Upside-down crucifix, literally drink blood and eat flesh, using the image of a horned deity, etc.

    What could Sheytanism look like? What islamic symbols, ideas and traditions would be used and in what way would they be modified?


    Seeing as how music, free-mixing, uncovered women, men without beards, gay people, evolution, unfettered free speech, laughing too much, bells, and whistling are all from "the shaytan", I would guess that a life filled with fun, tolerance, enjoyment, and freedom looks like shaytanism. 

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #13 - October 19, 2009, 12:16 AM

    how about a gay fun-loving Jew then?

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #14 - October 19, 2009, 12:29 AM


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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #15 - October 19, 2009, 03:44 AM

    some form of paganism is a typical rebellion

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #16 - October 19, 2009, 09:56 AM

    a lot of muslims and christians in Iraq, Syria, and Turkey think the Yazidis worship Iblis/satan.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #17 - October 19, 2009, 10:21 AM

    The Yazidis do seem to have built a lot of their religion on the basis of it being an "anti-Islam". Some of it is difficult to interpret in any other way.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #18 - October 19, 2009, 10:30 AM

    I once thought Yazidis worshipped the Caliph, Yazid ibn Muawiyah (you know...the lad that called for Hussain's head at Karbala?).  Cheesy

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  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #19 - October 19, 2009, 11:06 AM

    Eating with the left hand. The ones about satan are so stupid though, we may as well act like a bunch of anti-social 5 years olds, that would be Islam's shaytanism.


    No, it is Islam that makes people act like antisocial 5yos.  Acting like civilised adults is just about the most un-Islamic thing I can think of.
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #20 - October 19, 2009, 11:12 AM

    Seeing as how music, free-mixing, uncovered women, men without beards, gay people, evolution, unfettered free speech, laughing too much, bells, and whistling are all from "the shaytan", I would guess that a life filled with fun, tolerance, enjoyment, and freedom looks like shaytanism. 


    That's another good one.
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #21 - January 28, 2010, 09:50 AM

    Yawning is from Satan,
    During sleep, Satan ties three knots at the back of the head
    A good dream comes from Allah, a bad dream is from Satan.
    Satan interrupts prayer


    yawning is good for you. its a major part of relaxation and vocal warm up.... but i guess singing and relaxing are evil too then huh?  Smiley



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    et quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius,
    ad perpetranda miracula rei unius.
  • Re: What could Sheytanism look like?
     Reply #22 - January 28, 2010, 03:19 PM

    The Yazidis do seem to have built a lot of their religion on the basis of it being an "anti-Islam". Some of it is difficult to interpret in any other way.


    Yeah. I changed my name to Iblis after reading about the Yazidis too. I thought it was pretty cool how they worship someone who sounds a lot like lucifer. I even had the Melek Taus symbol as my avatar for a while: http://www.flwi.ugent.be/cie/CIE/images/Melek_taus.jpg

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

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