Are there ex-muslims on here who are still deists?

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Are there ex-muslims on here who are still deists?
OP - April 14, 2010, 10:02 AM

The ' how can something come out of nothing ' thread got me wondering if any on here had rejected Islam as a religion but still believe there is some intellingent being responsible. Or did the rejection of Islam come as a result of your atheism or agnosticism ?

According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
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Reply #1 - April 14, 2010, 04:03 PM

Quote from: Kaffir Latte on April 14, 2010, 10:02 AM
Or did the rejection of Islam come as a result of your atheism or agnosticism ?

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Reply #2 - April 14, 2010, 06:43 PM

My rejection of Islam came after learning of its barbaric teachings. Atheism was just the next logical step. As far as I'm concerned, I won't believe in any higher beings until I've seen evidence.

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Reply #3 - April 14, 2010, 07:27 PM

Quote from: Godot on April 14, 2010, 06:43 PM
My rejection of Islam came after learning of its barbaric teachings. Atheism was just the next logical step. As far as I'm concerned, I won't believe in any higher beings until I've seen evidence.

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Reply #4 - April 14, 2010, 07:48 PM

I'm Agnostic but am leaning towards Atheism.
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Reply #5 - April 14, 2010, 07:53 PM

I am not worried at all, because there would never be a god, who will punish me for not believing in him when there is not a single convincing evidence of his existance, and deserves to be worshiped after that.

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Reply #6 - April 14, 2010, 07:56 PM

I'm not a deist, but an atheistic-pantheist. Deism still allows for a creator god and I reject that notion. Theism adds to that deistic creator god, the idea of a personal god, I reject that notion too. Atheism is a rejection of both those. Pantheism is an acknowledgement of the interconnectedness of everything in the universe. I use it to show what I am *for*, while I use the label atheism to show what I'm not for.

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Reply #7 - April 14, 2010, 08:04 PM

Agnostic. There probably was some creation to lead to the big bang but i absolutely don't believe in a designer god or the god of Abraham. Given our knowledge of evolution of life and cosmos i see no reason to believe we are any special.

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Reply #8 - April 14, 2010, 08:08 PM

Quote from: canex on April 14, 2010, 08:04 PM
Agnostic. There probably was some creation to lead to the big bang but i absolutely don't believe in a designer god or the god of Abraham. Given our knowledge of evolution of life and cosmos i see no reason to believe we are any special.

Special. Hmmm. For me the 5 mass extinctions mostly caused by being smacked by comets from outer orbit, just show how how unprotected we really are.

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Reply #9 - April 14, 2010, 08:12 PM

If there is a God I have absolutely no doubt he fucking HATES religious people.
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Reply #10 - April 14, 2010, 09:41 PM

I consider my self a kinda agnostic(5%)-atheist (95%), the problem with deism in my humble opinion is that it still does not answer how did "that" intelligence come. Plus as far as i know most deists think its only one again it might be a collection of deities that collaborated to create our universe just like we humans collaborate to create a car, but again i am projecting our human thought in deities. Apparently we need to discover physical laws that will help us understand that better. Lets see what happens....
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Reply #11 - April 14, 2010, 10:10 PM

Agnosticism/Atheism seems to me the only position one can really defend.

If there turns out to be a God - he sure as hell can't fault them.

But he'll be seriously pissed at all the fuckwits who put stupid words in his mouth.
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Reply #12 - April 15, 2010, 12:48 AM

Quote from: kimo on April 14, 2010, 09:41 PM
I consider my self a kinda agnostic(5%)-atheist (95%), the problem with deism in my humble opinion is that it still does not answer how did "that" intelligence come. Plus as far as i know most deists think its only one again it might be a collection of deities that collaborated to create our universe just like we humans collaborate to create a car, but again i am projecting our human thought in deities. Apparently we need to discover physical laws that will help us understand that better. Lets see what happens....

I asked this question becuase I realised I just assumed that most folk on here would be one or the other and it may not be the case.
Personally Im 999.8 % atheist ,I think if there is a creator it will be nothing as anyone could imagine , probably not even have a 'mind' and if it nioticed us at all it would be like the grand canyon realising there was a spec of dust it hadnt noticed before.

According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
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Reply #13 - April 15, 2010, 02:25 AM

not a deist, i'm atheist but i do believe there could be something more to us, but not a god-like thing that tells us we are wrong/right, or hell/heaven. i mean i've seen a ghost before, and believe in those.
but in terms from whatever religion/holy books, there is no "god" persey

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I'm Agnostic but am leaning towards Atheism.

i was agnostic after leaving islam when I was 16,only came to the conclusion I was atheist in the past 3/4 months.

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Reply #14 - April 15, 2010, 02:59 AM

lol my friend told me once, I'm agnostic generally but an atheist when it comes to the Abrahamic faiths because sure as hell that version of God doesn't exist.

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #15 - April 15, 2010, 08:27 AM

I still believe in something greater than we all could imagine
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Reply #16 - April 15, 2010, 10:06 AM

Quote from: deusvult on April 15, 2010, 02:59 AM
lol my friend told me once, I'm agnostic generally but an atheist when it comes to the Abrahamic faiths because sure as hell that version of God doesn't exist.

Yes, when it comes to the God described by the Abrahamic faiths I am an Atheist!
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Reply #17 - April 15, 2010, 11:46 AM

I have nothing against God, its his fan club I can't stand.

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Reply #18 - April 15, 2010, 08:21 PM

I was a deist for a while. Now I have purely pantheistic views.
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Reply #19 - April 15, 2010, 08:40 PM

Quote from: AisaLagtaHAI on April 15, 2010, 02:25 AM
i mean i've seen a ghost before, and believe in those.
but in terms from whatever religion/holy books, there is no "god" persey

Aisa , Im a total skeptic when it comes to ghosts and spirits but I would like to hear your account of what you saw and why you believe it was real and dont call me Percy

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Reply #20 - April 15, 2010, 08:44 PM

Quote from: Kaffir Latte on April 15, 2010, 08:40 PM
and dont call me Percy
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Reply #21 - April 16, 2010, 01:16 AM

Quote from: Hassan on April 15, 2010, 08:44 PM

And don't call me Shirley either

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Reply #22 - April 16, 2010, 07:44 AM

Yep, Kawai , thats were I stole the joke from

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