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 Topic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين

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  • ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
     OP - January 23, 2011, 02:01 PM

    Mohammed dictated the Koran stating that he received this book from the deity who was the creator, nurturer, sustainer, and what not of "heavens and earth". But those that have read the Koran, and have lived through the Islamic hegemonies either imposed by their own family, or imposed by the nation they dwell in are fully aware of the misguided notions propagated by this book. This book seeks to create a divide between humans by making a group of them believers, a group of them "People of the Book", and the third non-believers or those that associate partners in worship of the book's supreme deity. Mohammed calls this supreme deity Allah, who was in traditional Arab culture for several centuries before him considered to be like Zeus in the Arab pantheon. This Allah was known to the Arabs to have three daughters and was part of much larger set of deities that were worshiped by the Arab tribes.

    Something transpired in Mohammed's head that caused him to start this curse of a religion likely to plague the human consciousness for another thousand to two thousand years. The cult he created continually spreads through out the world taking more gullible victims as its hate-filled followers. I and many others are forced to wonder what type of deceit is used in propagation of this religion that people are continually converting to this illogical lie. Before we know it in 2050 a large Muslim population will spell trouble for Europe and its liberties. The hope in this world is very close to death as our ex-religionists become much more obedient to their hate filled terror manual.

    None of what the Quran said would have mattered, if the Muslims did not use terror, deception, and utmost contempt towards their counterparts. But the Muslims actually followed what the Quran had instructed them to do, and acted as Quran taught them to act towards the unbelievers. There are those amongst the followers of Islam who are simply unaware of the instructions in this book that violate the right of people as human beings to choose to believe or not believe as humans wished, A majority amongst the Muslims has not ever read the translation nor exegesis of the book, and simply do not know the vile present there in. It is a very difficult case for non-Muslim apologetics to build for enlightenment of Muslims, if the Muslims themselves are too badly brainwashed or simply unaware of what is in the book and therefore are blind in the beliefs propagated by this book.

    No matter how many errors, historical, grammatical or scientific you quote against this book, they would not see the truth. This is not because you are blind, deaf or speechless as the book claims, but it is actually the other way around. The book has caused a veil to be dropped all around the Muslims, and Muslims fail to see the light of reason. There is very little those free of belief can do to shake them from the clutches of an evil hateful ideology. And even littler we can do to stop chaotic instances of exercise of this ideology in form of terror attacks, kidnappings, robberies, rapes, murders, and public executions. Frankly though, saving even one soul from this demonic ideology is worth the battle.

    So is Allah then some sort of evil being that caused Mohammed to commit and spread evil on Earth? Well, if Allah did ever exist, it was indeed an evil being, because the GOD of this universe could not be as oblivious as Allah demonstrated he was in his allegedly revealed book the Quran. Let us look at the Quran for everyone's benefit, and especially for benefit of those people who have not read the book or it's translation to demonstrate that Allah is not only evil, but he claims to have created people explicitly for their eternal punishment in hell, and that he indeed has caused people to be misguided beyond any salvation, and yet he is the most merciful, and the most beneficent deity of everything and everyone according to his own book.

    Allah or Mohammed states in the book called the Quran (Surah 3, verse 54):

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    ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين


    which means the following:

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    (UR) اور چلے  چالیں اور چلا اپنی چال اللہ۔ اور اللہ سب سے بہتر چال چلنے والا ہے
    (EN) And (they) schemed, and Allah too schemed, and the best of schemers is Allah.


    You can notice in the above verse the word مکر, which means to  practice deceit or guile. In other words, the verse above is saying that Allah is indeed the best of deceivers. The likelihood of Muslims brushing this verse off as nothing is great, but one has to think for a minute how true this verse actually is especially in the light of contradictions that plague the book itself. These contradictions are often related to how the non-believers are to be treated in different parts of the book.

    This deception of Allah is alluded to by many other verses:

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    Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. -- Quran (Surah 7, verse 99)


    The above verse clearly states the obvious. The believers are indeed being deceived by Allah, because they cannot deem themselves secure from Allah's deception, however since Allah vehemently claims that he will somehow punish the unbelievers in hell, and they will indeed perish, the unbelievers indeed deem themselves from the deception of Allah. Indeed from the above verse it seems Allah has caused deception to cause the believers in his religion to keep their faith in this lie.

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    So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. -- Quran (Surah 27, verse 50)


    You can see above again a boast by this so-called only deity of scheming against his enemy.

    Now let me demonstrate how Allah seeks to cause divisiveness amongst his own alleged creation. I will pose for Muslims, and even non-Muslims some questions below and you may think up an answer for them and write it up. You will then be given an answer based solely on Quran by myself shortly after. This is to demonstrate the deception of Allah, its cult of Islam, and its many followers:


    1. Does Allah allow Muslims to befriend non-Muslims, including the People of the Book, and the non-believers in the books? Is this friendship conditional, or unconditional?

    2. Does Allah allow Muslims to live in non-Muslim countries, or is there a ban or restrictions in living in non-Muslim countries?

    3. According to Islamic Sources (particularly the Quran), is there no compulsion in religion, and everyone is free to choose as one wishes, or Islam is the only correct path, and none other shall be accepted from anyone?

    4. Is the default state of relationship to be kept with the Pagans (the Mushriks) a perpetual war, or perpetual peace? What are the specific conditions upon, which a perpetual war (if that is indeed the condition mentioned by Quran) may be stopped? Do you think this is a just condition?

    5. As per Quran do you really believe in the generalization that all Jews are misers, and Jews believe that Uzair is son of Allah?

    6. As per Quran do you think there is any mainstream Christian sect or religion that believes that Mary mother of Jesus is part of the Trinity?

    7. Who do you think is the speaker or narrator of Quran? Do you believe all the passages in the Quran are indeed being narrated by Allah?

    8. Do unbelievers really have a choice on belief or seeing the "light of Islam" (as Muslim's put it) if the Quran Surah 36, verses 8 to 10? If this verse is true, then what is the point of Quran, or sending prophets to Earth, or for that matter the Islamic Missionaries?


    There may be people in the forum who already see my point. For others who are Muslims, or are sympathetic to Muslims will not see my point unless I place answers to the above questions exposing the hypocrisy of this book and its followers. I will wait for some responses before placing answers to the above questions. These questions and many more should have been raised by consciousness of all that read the Quran.

    The most merciful Allah, who is more merciful than your own mortal mother, is capable of punishing you for eternity for a finite sin committed in a finite lifetime with finite knowledge, while your mother nor any living creature that is NOT a sadistic mother fucker would never commit such an act.
  • Re: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
     Reply #1 - January 30, 2011, 02:19 PM

    Now the answers to the questions I asked to demonstrate the true nature of the false religion of Islam:

    1. Does Allah allow Muslims to befriend non-Muslims, including the People of the Book, and the non-believers in the books? Is this friendship conditional, or unconditional?

    Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

    Allah just passed judgement against the entire Jewish and Christian community calling them unjust. Look at the world right now and compare the countries in the west with the countries in the east. Compare the Muslim World, with the unislamic United States. Where can you find better Justice?

    Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." 

    Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell. Do you not think this is harsh and unfair. Go and read the context of these verses, and you will find all these statements are unconditional. In fact, the book of Allah claims itself to be complete and needing no Appendices, Footnotes, or external interpretation.

    Qur'an (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." 

    This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit.  Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that "believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly." This means that your Muslim friends are not whole-heartedly your friends but just deceiving you into believing that they are your friends.

    Qur'an (3:118) - "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." 

    This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, but it establishes the deep-seated paranoia that the rest of the world is out to get them. This paranoia is still present in the Muslims of this world, especially when they blame US for causing floods and Earthquakes by using some imaginary machine called the HAARP.

    Qur'an (9:23) - "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" 

    Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam.  (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates "slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them").

    Qur'an (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

    What kind of GOD will shun people for not believing in Him? Belief is a personal matter and cannot be forced upon others.

    Qur'an (3:85) - "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

    And yes, this is the contradicting verse to the one that says there is no compulsion in religion. Yet there is no contextual text in Quran in context of either of these verses to satisfy using QURAN ALONE as to why this contradiction occurred? For those who say this or other verses are abrogated, what can you use in QURAN itself to determine abrogated verses from active verses? Quran is complete right, and is *clear* so where is this completeness and vividness?

    Qur'an (3:10) - "(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." 

    Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98).

    Qur'an (7:44) - "The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire: "We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?" They shall say, "Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them: "The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers"  Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see 22:19-22).

    Qur'an (1:5-7) - "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray"  This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day.  "Those who earn Thine anger" specifically refers to Jews and "those who go astray" refers to Christians (see Bukhari (12:749)).

    2. Does Allah allow Muslims to live in non-Muslim countries, or is there a ban or restrictions in living in non-Muslim countries?

    “Verily, as for those whom the angels take while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!” - Quran 4:97

    The above verse clearly speaks for itself.


    3. According to Islamic Sources (particularly the Quran), is there no compulsion in religion, and everyone is free to choose as one wishes, or Islam is the only correct path, and none other shall be accepted from anyone?

    So which one is it?

    Qur'an (3:85) - "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

    OR

    Qur'an (2:256) - There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

    Read the context of both of them. It is apparent that Christians and Jews are doomed according to this false book.


    4. Is the default state of relationship to be kept with the Pagans (the Mushriks) a perpetual war, or perpetual peace? What are the specific conditions upon, which a perpetual war (if that is indeed the condition mentioned by Quran) may be stopped? Do you think this is a just condition?

    Read chapter 9 of the Quran multiple times. The first 18 verses speak for themselves:

    9:1
    A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-

    9:2
    Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.

    9:3
    And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

    9:4
    (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

    9:5
    But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

    9:6
    If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

    9:7
    How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous.

    9:8
    How (can there be such a league), seeing that if they get an advantage over you, they respect not in you the ties either of kinship or of covenant? With (fair words from) their mouths they entice you, but their hearts are averse from you; and most of them are rebellious and wicked.

    9:9
    The Signs of Allah have they sold for a miserable price, and (many) have they hindered from His way: evil indeed are the deeds they have done.

    9:10
    In a Believer they respect not the ties either of kinship or of covenant! It is they who have transgressed all bounds.

    9:11
    But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.

    9:12
    But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained.

    9:13
    Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!

    9:14
    Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,

    9:15
    And still the indignation of their hearts. For Allah will turn (in mercy) to whom He will; and Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

    9:16
    Or think ye that ye shall be abandoned, as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main, and take none for friends and protectors except Allah, His Messenger, and the (community of) Believers? But Allah is well-acquainted with (all) that ye do.

    9:17
    It is not for such as join gods with Allah, to visit or maintain the mosques of Allah while they witness against their own souls to infidelity. The works of such bear no fruit: In Fire shall they dwell.

    9:18
    The mosques of Allah shall be visited and maintained by such as believe in Allah and the Last Day, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity, and fear none (at all) except Allah. It is they who are expected to be on true guidance.



    5. As per Quran do you really believe in the generalization that all Jews are misers, and Jews believe that Uzair is son of Allah?

    Quran 9:30
    The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

    The above verse is a complete lie. There are and there never were any Jews that believed that Uzair is a son of GOD.

    Read the following Tafsir regarding how Allah (Mohammed) calls the Jews Misers:

    http://www.theholybook.org/content/view/6834/2/


    6. As per Quran do you think there is any mainstream Christian sect or religion that believes that Mary mother of Jesus is part of the Trinity?

    Quran 5:73
    They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

    Quran 5:116
    And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.


    7. Who do you think is the speaker or narrator of Quran? Do you believe all the passages in the Quran are indeed being narrated by Allah?

    Ask yourselves who is speaking following verses:

    75:1-2, 90:1, 19:64 and 37:161-166.

    These are only a few out of almost hundred whose speaker cannot possibly be Allah, especially if you claim Allah is the narrator of this book.

    8. Do unbelievers really have a choice on belief or seeing the "light of Islam" (as Muslim's put it) if the Quran Surah 36, verses 8 to 10? If this verse is true, then what is the point of Quran, or sending prophets to Earth, or for that matter the Islamic Missionaries?

    The fact is that there are many places in Quran where Allah says believers have no choice but to disbelief, including the Baqarah:

    Quran 2:6 As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.
    Quran 2:7 Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom.

    This makes Quran a completely useless book, as the disbelievers are blinded by Allah and will never believe without his leave, and yet they are responsible for this sin. Wow! Allah is very merciful indeed.

    The most merciful Allah, who is more merciful than your own mortal mother, is capable of punishing you for eternity for a finite sin committed in a finite lifetime with finite knowledge, while your mother nor any living creature that is NOT a sadistic mother fucker would never commit such an act.
  • Re: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
     Reply #2 - January 30, 2011, 05:27 PM

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    Wow Zee.. Very nicely written. Write your book man and become another Ali Sina and Sulman Rushdee..

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  • Re: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
     Reply #3 - January 30, 2011, 07:18 PM

    Thank you! Thank you! Takes a bow!

    The most merciful Allah, who is more merciful than your own mortal mother, is capable of punishing you for eternity for a finite sin committed in a finite lifetime with finite knowledge, while your mother nor any living creature that is NOT a sadistic mother fucker would never commit such an act.
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