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 Topic: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!

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  • Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     OP - March 22, 2011, 09:53 PM

    Hey there lalib here (and I'll bet this is the first forum where people will instantly recognize teh significance of my username, others usually miss it  grin12)

    I am a junior in college and have had doubts about religion since late high school. I have told a couple of people that I am an now an atheist but am effectively still in the closet to my family. My family are devout Muslims and raised me as such to the point where I was a creationist, 9/11 conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier, etc up until the 10th grade! I am studying Biology and Philosophy with the intent to go to Medical school.


    As to how I came to my senses, well, that's quite the story. I went to a small private religious school up to the 8th grade, however my mother passed away at the end of the 5th grade, 9/11 happened shortly thereafter, and I acquired a stepmother who pushed our family to a more fundamentalist position.

    Prior to these events, I was your typical, moderately religious child with a love of science. The earliest show I remember watching was the magic school bus/Bill Nye and I honestly didn't learn anything in science class until the 6th grade because I had already learned it elsewhere. My mother's death naturally raised the question 'why?'especially concerning why god would do such a thing. 9/11 made me question the actual religious teachings instilled in me, I wondered how anyone could take the Quran and use it to promote violence (of course I hadn't actually read the thing yet), I eventually concluded 9/11 was a conspiracy to justify hatred against muslims. The third event was the real kicker, instead of the previous two events pushing me out of religion, my fundamentalist stepmother pushed me back into religion. I was never truly sincere, but I 'protected' myself by doing everything a 'good' muslim was supposed to do.

    High school really opened my eyes (especially since my 8th grade class had 7 students and my high school class had 500) to other world views. I had stopped denying evolution by 10th grade (ie, when I actually learned about it in school, my religious school had conveniently skipped over it). By the 12th grade, I was no longer a fundie, nor was I sincere in my belief but it hadn't truly occured to me to believe in nothing. By my last semester in high school I had only met one openly agnostic fellow (and by openly I mean he shared his view when asked, but otherwise was just a normal guy). Come freshman year in college, I suddenly began noticing how religious the world was, granted I was attending a Jesuit university, but I also noticed Facebook friends with religious statuses who I didn't realize were very religious. Ironically, the final push to atheism came from the required theology classes at my Jesuit university. The classes were academic in nature, but required reading the OT, NT, and bits of the Quran. Imagine my surprise when after taking a theology class or two I was taught by Christians that the Bible is indeed written down by men and was originally an oral tradition. My professor also traced the evolution of judaism based on important events in their history and after that very class I confronted my professor "If we can so easily trace the evolution of religion, why bother following it?" His response was that there was still truth in them, even if they changed. From that day I internally identified as an atheist, it became clear that the whole damn thing was a mass self inflicted delusions, and the fact that the religious know it's all hogwash but don't give a damn surprised me the most.

    Now I'm trying to perfect the art of the HitchSlap.  dance
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #1 - March 22, 2011, 09:55 PM

    Welcome. Have a parrot  parrot

    And please tell us how you find this site. Smiley
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #2 - March 22, 2011, 10:08 PM

    Welcome, thanks for sharing!

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #3 - March 22, 2011, 10:16 PM

    مرحبا بلال

    Wink
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #4 - March 22, 2011, 10:21 PM

    Welcome. Have a parrot  parrot

    And please tell us how you find this site. Smiley


    That should have been Islame's line.

    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #5 - March 22, 2011, 10:28 PM

    Welcome!

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #6 - March 22, 2011, 10:29 PM

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    My professor also traced the evolution of judaism based on important events in their history and after that very class I confronted my professor "If we can so easily trace the evolution of religion, why bother following it?" His response was that there was still truth in them, even if they changed. From that day I internally identified as an atheist, it became clear that the whole damn thing was a mass self inflicted delusions, and the fact that the religious know it's all hogwash but don't give a damn surprised me the most.

     

    It would be really nice if you could elaborate on this (especially the highlighted part).

    oh and welcome, btw.

    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #7 - March 22, 2011, 10:40 PM

    Thanks for the welcome everyone. I see one person got my name.  Wink

    I found this site via ZOMGitsCriss, one of her videos on islam was removed from youtube and she linked this site in her blog.

    @debunker

    Well, after he said that, I asked him if we know that religions change over time why should we believe them? His response was the same, despite our knowledge of religions being man made, they do good things in the world they can help unite the world under common teachings. Basically, a 'Christianity makes me feel good' type of christian.
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #8 - March 22, 2011, 10:47 PM

    Quote
    Well, after he said that, I asked him if we know that religions change over time why should we believe them? His response was the same, despite our knowledge of religions being man made, they do good things in the world they can help unite the world under common teachings. Basically, a 'Christianity makes me feel good' type of christian.


    Oh, I thought he was a scriptures-naturally-must-be-tampered-with Christian... I met a Christian (online) who thought that the Bible is tampered with, yet there is some (divine) truth in it, still intact.

    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #9 - March 23, 2011, 01:01 AM

    Finally another ex-Muslim from America.
    All the ex-Muslims seem to be in either Britian or another part of the world thats not America.
    Muslims in America are starting to think.
    Which part of the US are you from? (no need for specifics, just northeast, mid, etc)
    Anywho, welcome to the forum! Smiley
    Heres a parrot!
     parrot
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #10 - March 23, 2011, 01:14 AM

    Welcome to the forum, dude. victory


    I see one person got my name.  Wink

    I solved that little puzzle too before seeing Hassan's post. dance

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #11 - March 23, 2011, 01:48 AM

    Welcome Cheesy  parrot interesting story

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #12 - March 23, 2011, 01:56 AM

    Welcome lilab, interesting story indeed. I think the quote of your teacher is quite accurate, all religions share fundamental truths about humanity, it's just that they are lost amidst a sea of lies and fairy tales!
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #13 - March 23, 2011, 03:30 AM

    Welcome alBil,

    By my last semester in high school I had only met one openly agnostic fellow (and by openly I mean he shared his view when asked, but otherwise was just a normal guy).

    LOL

    Why start with philosophy if you want to become a doctor?

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Hello from an ex-muslim in America!
     Reply #14 - March 23, 2011, 05:25 AM

    Cool parrots.  thnkyu

    I really enjoy philosophy and it's part of what got me away from religion in the first place (ie, thinking).

    I'm from the mid west.

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