Question for female ex-Muslims...

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Question for female ex-Muslims...
OP - April 13, 2011, 05:58 AM

Together with any other comments persons may wish to add....

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Re: Question for female ex-Muslims...
Reply #1 - April 13, 2011, 08:33 AM

Of course its Alien to the West just how Mini-Skirts are alien to Bediones in Arabia.

A Belly dancer is alien to the West but to an Eyptian/Turk its normal.

Every culture has its own customs and dress codes.
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Reply #2 - April 13, 2011, 11:47 AM

It's primitive, oppressive and no woman should have to wear one.
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Reply #3 - April 14, 2011, 06:27 AM

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It's primitive, oppressive and no woman should have to wear one.

Even in a country where the majority of the population WANT women to be forced to wear one whether they want to or not? Isn't that the democratic will?

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Reply #4 - April 14, 2011, 08:36 AM

LOL

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Re: Question for female ex-Muslims...
Reply #5 - May 30, 2011, 11:47 AM

the media often confuse the terms burka, niqab, hijab etc which dont help.

Sometimes its funny when people are holding signs saying ban the burka in countries where no-one wears it. Amuses me. Burka looks weird though.

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Re: Question for female ex-Muslims...
Reply #6 - May 30, 2011, 11:59 AM

Quote from: Pashtun on April 13, 2011, 08:33 AM
A Belly dancer is alien to the West but to an Eyptian/Turk its normal.

I am not too sure you've been to "the West" ^_^

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Re: Question for female ex-Muslims...
Reply #7 - May 30, 2011, 12:17 PM

I was only an official Muslim for 6 months, am Western, and my parents aren't Muslims (my dad's an Easter-Christmas Catholic and mom's an atheist). Mom hated the burqa and forbade me from wearing it. I think the burqas are neat. I like them.

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Reply #8 - May 30, 2011, 12:29 PM

The Burkah Objectifies women!

It's dehumanising, it's making women into a sexual object and that's it.....she's an object that has to be hidden. It also implies all men are predators, they're sex hungry loonatics, and infact it makes men more so sexuall hyper no doubt, so a little bit of a womans skin would drive a man into thinking sexual thoughts about her...for example seeing her arms, because its conditioned into their minds to think that way to see every part of a woman linked to 'sex' hence every part of her has to be hidden away. So instead of seeing a woman as a fellow human being she is seen as this 'mystical' thing, and very different to men...and women arn't so different to men really in most ways.

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Reply #9 - May 30, 2011, 01:45 PM

Satanico Pandemonium

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watch it DH.. that gives you origin of Burkha and origin of Quran and origin of Muhammad...

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Reply #10 - May 30, 2011, 01:59 PM

Quote from: stardust on May 30, 2011, 12:29 PM
and women arn't so different to men really in most ways.

Most of my friends are women. Huge similarities, less farting and belching.
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Reply #11 - May 30, 2011, 02:25 PM

Quote from: Pashtun on April 13, 2011, 08:33 AM
Of course its Alien to the West just how Mini-Skirts are alien to Bediones in Arabia.

A Belly dancer is alien to the West but to an Eyptian/Turk its normal.

Every culture has its own customs and dress codes.
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Re: Question for female ex-Muslims...
Reply #12 - May 30, 2011, 04:27 PM

Quote from: DH on April 14, 2011, 06:27 AM
Even in a country where the majority of the population WANT women to be forced to wear one whether they want to or not? Isn't that the democratic will?

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Reply #13 - June 01, 2011, 05:04 PM

But in the west, women are controlled and manipulated by the media - I agree the Burqa is a disgusting excuse for modesty and I feel it is sad women are sometimes forced to wear it. But don't fashion magazines in western countries psychologically manipulate women into following there 'rules of fashion'. Of course we do have a choice at least.
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Reply #14 - June 01, 2011, 05:52 PM

Vamp, it is true. We have our own "good ol boy" clubs to
contend with, even today, in the 21st century. And honestly,
I found women supress other women almost as much as the men
do!

we still have to contend with "glass ceilings" in the work force,
still harrassed on a regular basis, and still very difficult to
get justice for the shit men do to us.

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Reply #15 - June 01, 2011, 09:32 PM

Quote from: VampCyberpunk on June 01, 2011, 05:04 PM
But in the west, women are controlled and manipulated by the media - I agree the Burqa is a disgusting excuse for modesty and I feel it is sad women are sometimes forced to wear it. But don't fashion magazines in western countries psychologically manipulate women into following there 'rules of fashion'. Of course we do have a choice at least.
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Reply #16 - June 14, 2011, 04:21 AM

Not sure what culture you meant, but thought I'd share something about why its necessary in some Islamic countries: I haven't been back "home" but some of my siblings have ventured out. The younger one (female) was determined not to cave to the pressure and had decided to dress as she wished. When she came back, she told me that if there was a burka made out of steel, she would have worn it. I insisted that I would never wear one. "Honey, no one is going to force you to wear it, after just a day, you'll be begging to put it on." Because of the jeers, stares and the 'dirty' feeling the men make you feel. She described how in the market place, where she was with a male protector and a gaggle of other women, covered head to toe, she was still harassed (hands grabbing at her as they pushed through the crowd).
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Re: Question for female ex-Muslims...
Reply #17 - June 14, 2011, 04:48 AM

It's a disgusting manifestation of patriarchal rule and and a a blatant unwillingness to take responsibility for man's sexual desires. If communities and cultures would simply focus on not treating women like sexual objects or servants to be chained to the oven or relegated to pump out babies, there would probably be no need for the burqa/niqab.

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