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  • Hey there!
     OP - July 29, 2011, 05:21 PM

    Hi everyone!  Smiley
    I have known this forum and have been registered for a while, so it's now time to introduce myself!
    I am Amy, I'm French and I was glad to discover this site because we don't have the equivalent in France (that I know of). I'm sorry in advance if my English is not perfect, I'll do my best.

    I was born and raised in a loving "quite moderate" muslim  family. I think that I started to have doubts about religion when I was around 12 years old. Some things just didn't make sense. I couldn't comprehend that all my friends who where not muslims will go to hell even though there were good kids. But I didn't talk about it at the time because I knew that it could cause me some serious problems.  finmad
    Later I decided to really learn about Islam by myself. I was confused and had more doubts. But I couldn't accept that my entire family and entourage could be wrong about something so important. I certainly was the one who misunderstood things. So I started unconsciously to make excuses for Islam, I started to read the Qur'an with my own liberal interpretation in order for it to fit my principles. And I was happy like that...

    Some of the best memories of my childhood were when my sister, brothers and myself were watching the moon in a telescope that my father build himself!  cool2
    When I was older, I bought my own telescope and sometimes I watched the moon and felt nostalgia about those days.
    Watching the moon was fun but I wanted to learn more about it... and about the planets... and about the stars... before I knew it I was an astronomy addict reading tons of books and watching all the documentaries I could find. I think I then caught the science bug, I wanted to learn always more... about cosmology, biology... I started to learn about evolution and so much more. I had no idea that so much was known and that we could explain almost everything without the help of religion.

    And then... revelation! I experienced something strange, I suddenly felt totally free and weirdly good. I later saw a Youtube video who described exactly this experience.
    It's called "Why didn't anybody tell me" by user Philhellenes, here is the link:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjNXdEGjO4

    After this "revelation", I knew that I was now an atheist and that there was no coming back from that.
    My family doesn't know. I will maybe tell them someday but for the moment I prefer to avoid the storm it would create.
    So I pretended for a long time...I was so angry and tired pretending to pray, to fast etc...
    The best solution was to get my own apartment. My parents were of course totally opposed to it. An unmarried woman living alone?? Impossible!
    But I got it anyway because I knew that they love me very much and would not repudiate me just for that. The first few weeks were hard but it's ok now (they still want me to marry a good muslim guy asap!)

    I'm happy to have joined such a nice forum where I will be able to discuss and share with people who understand me.
    Take care and talk to all of you soon  Wink
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #1 - July 29, 2011, 05:27 PM

    Hello Amy. Yay science Smiley Your story has brightened up my Friday afternoon at work blues; thanks! Damn flash player won't work so I can't see the video you posted but the still shot I can see looks intriguing.
    As for the standard of your English...it beats many an English person I've met.  parrot
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #2 - July 29, 2011, 05:30 PM

    Welcome Amy parrot

    Congratulations for getting your own apartment. hugs I can't wait till I get my own place. I've had enough of this shit, that coming out has caused, of course I didn't choose to come out, but I don't think I regret quite as much anymore. So so glad to have you on board.

    signwelcome
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #3 - July 29, 2011, 06:17 PM

    Thanks fo the warm welcome Chris and Zaiba  Kiss
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #4 - July 29, 2011, 06:33 PM

    Hey Amy! I'm glad you came to this conclusion through the aid of SCIENCE! woo! Smiley

    Welcome to the forums, I wish you a fantastic stay and non-addiction Tongue

     parrot

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #5 - July 29, 2011, 06:35 PM

    oh the parrots are a cemb welcoming tradition btw:P if you're wondering what's going on with the parrot invasion of your thread heh.

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #6 - July 29, 2011, 06:38 PM

    >.<......BUBBLESSSS OMGGG


    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #7 - July 29, 2011, 06:41 PM

    Welcome aboard Amy! It's always great to know that so many people are moved out of religion by the awesomeness that is science!  Afro

  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #8 - July 29, 2011, 07:06 PM

    @Stardust,  thnkyu for the parrot!  and yess for the power of bubbles! who knew you they can make you become an atheist?  Wink
    @Poopycock thanks!
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #9 - July 29, 2011, 07:45 PM

    Bonjour Amy, et bienvenue! Voilá vos perrot  parrot
    Parce-que vos Anglais est mieux que mon Français, let's proceed in English  Wink Amazing that you apostated through the science of Astronomy, quite original! I think it is very possible to live in France as an apostate. France has made a very good separation between state and religion. Enjoy the forum!

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #10 - July 29, 2011, 07:59 PM

    Bonjour à nouveau Amy, j'ai pensé contribuer à Hallakuf merveilleux commentaires française. grin12
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #11 - July 29, 2011, 08:39 PM

    Welcome dear Amy  Smiley

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #12 - July 29, 2011, 09:19 PM

    ...et merci pour ce film extraordinaire! Je serais vraiment agité....

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #13 - July 29, 2011, 09:46 PM

    Hey Amy

    It pleases me to see you here, for the following reasons:
    • I love France
    • We dont have any French people on this forum, as far as I'm aware
    • I particularly love the French accent

    There's a few of us on here that also like Astronomy. There's a guy on here called GRB and he literally lives for the skies. I hope he pops in to say hello to you, cause I can see you getting on really well.

    Anyways, welcome and see you around Smiley

    Hi
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #14 - July 29, 2011, 10:09 PM

    Welcome Amy Smiley

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #15 - July 29, 2011, 10:29 PM

    Bonjour!  Welcome to the forum, your english is superb.

    Btw don't you know that all of the sciencasinine the world was already mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago?  cool2

    *I joke*

    .
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #16 - July 29, 2011, 11:21 PM

    Hi Amy, welcome to the forums!  bunny

    Your English is excellent, better than many on the forums. I also love philhellenes videos, actually my obsession with him was the direct cause of me finding this forum.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #17 - July 30, 2011, 05:36 PM

    Waw! thank you all very much  Kiss

    Mais c'est génial! je vois que certains parlent très bien le français, n'est-ce pas Hallakuf et Zaiba?  grin12
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #18 - July 30, 2011, 05:51 PM

    vive la science et le fromage!

    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #19 - July 30, 2011, 05:52 PM

    ps: i don't speak a word of french Cheesy welcome!

    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #20 - July 30, 2011, 05:55 PM

    Cheesy LOL Tlaloc you're a joker!
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #21 - July 30, 2011, 06:00 PM

     Cheesy thank you Tlaloc!
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #22 - July 30, 2011, 06:18 PM

    Welcome Amy!  parrot

    Great to know that you have been touched by his noodly appendage  Afro  From now on, you can join us and be a nice little baby eating pagan atheist   far away hug
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #23 - July 30, 2011, 06:19 PM

    Cheesy LOL Tlaloc you're a joker!

    I just love the word FROMAGE!

    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #24 - July 30, 2011, 08:56 PM

    One of the most interesting deconversion stories I've read here, thanks for posting. Philhellenes - and that exact video - were integral to my decision to leave Islam.

    So that experience happened in an single moment? How much had you been studying before that?
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #25 - July 30, 2011, 10:25 PM

    I just love the word FROMAGE!


    When I visit France sometimes French groups ask me to take a picture, so they are all on it. I use to ask "Dites fromage" before I take the pic...... and I like French cheeses  dance

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #26 - July 31, 2011, 07:27 PM

    One of the most interesting deconversion stories I've read here, thanks for posting. Philhellenes - and that exact video - were integral to my decision to leave Islam.

    So that experience happened in an single moment? How much had you been studying before that?


    Yes, Philhellenes has a lot of inspiring videos!
    That experience almost happen in an instant.
    Neil deGrasse Tyson once said "If you're scientifically litterate, the world looks very different to you". So after studying for a while, I sure started to look at things very differently. I then decided to read the Qur'an again, and it happened at that moment. I had the impression of reading the book for the first time and was outraged by most of it (that's what happen when you read without faith filters and try to be objective  Wink ). When i finished, I closed the book and I knew that I was done with it forever.
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #27 - August 18, 2011, 02:38 PM

    Sorry my reply took so long, LOL. I seemed miss this update for some reason.

    Thanks for answering my questions.

    I've only just started researching more into the discoveries of science, but even after rudimentary research I'm baffled by some of the stuff I hear from religious folk regarding the discoveries of science. Even when I was a muslim I rarely tried to debate about scientific discoveries, though I did briefly read some creationist stuff like this...

    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/evolve.htm

    What's your view on religion/God now?
     
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #28 - August 18, 2011, 03:56 PM

    I am Amy, I'm French and....


    Hi. I don't just like raccoons you know.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Hey there!
     Reply #29 - August 18, 2011, 03:59 PM

    French, eh?

    So what does "frottage" mean???

    Formerly known as Iblis
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