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Reply #30 - October 03, 2011, 07:11 PM

Quote from: Abood on October 03, 2011, 05:47 PM
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/10/101005-planes-pollution-deaths-science-environment/

OMFG, "a stream of artificial materials sprayed from a plane into the atmosphere" is killing people!! THE GOVERNMENT IS PLANNING TO KILL US ALL!! RUN!!!

Interesting enough, but clearly not the same thing discussed in the report I linked to. And I thought an environmentalist such as yourself would be a lot more concerned about government plans to alter atmospheric chemistry. I guess it's only global warming that's bad for the environment.
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Reply #31 - October 03, 2011, 07:12 PM

Quote from: Hallakuf on October 03, 2011, 05:50 PM
Illuminati again?

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Reply #32 - October 03, 2011, 07:16 PM

Quote from: Zebedee on October 03, 2011, 07:08 PM
Now, now, Rationalizer, you know I never asserted that nor implied that. I didn't say chemical weapons tests are the same as chemtrails. I simply posted it to show that the government does not shy away even from poisoning its own people.

Never trust the government!

Always keep them in check!

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Reply #33 - October 03, 2011, 07:18 PM

That's the idea, fly!
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Reply #34 - October 03, 2011, 07:20 PM

there is nothing that I would put beyond governments.

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Reply #35 - October 03, 2011, 07:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAGTJErVNBU

An alternative to religion;

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Reply #36 - October 03, 2011, 07:33 PM

Quote from: z10 on October 03, 2011, 07:20 PM
there is nothing that I would put beyond governments.

Well, it's kind of hard to. If you can think of something sick and twisted, they've done it.
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Reply #37 - October 03, 2011, 07:38 PM

Quote from: strangestdude on October 03, 2011, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAGTJErVNBU

Ike's a bit, shall I say, New Age for my tastes. I prefer the semi-hysterical rants of a boisterous Texan gun-slinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zBle3ekogg&list=LLoPm79FlT2ybkivTGn-Farg&index=4
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Reply #38 - October 03, 2011, 07:51 PM

I was trolling Z10's comment. I think he's either a fucking nutcase, a very smart con man, or both.

I used to like some of Alex's stuff, but after I apostated the whole paranoid perspective on world events began to lose it's grip on me. And then I came across his bullshit reporting on the UK riots as a fucking race-war! Now he's trying to demonize occupy wall street.

I recall watching Alex openly denounce David Icke as a con man, and now he's a regular guest on his show. And now he demonizes Charlie Veitch as a 'black ops' agent for changing his mind regarding 9/11 and he 'knew it all along' - despite the evidence to the contrary ie. having him appear on his show multiple times as a guest.

Summary; Alex Jones can be a wanker.

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Reply #39 - October 03, 2011, 08:04 PM

Quote from: Zebedee on October 03, 2011, 07:08 PM
Now, now, Rationalizer, you know I never asserted that nor implied that. I didn't say chemical weapons tests are the same as chemtrails. I simply posted it to show that the government does not shy away even from poisoning its own people.

Well, that's certainly not the impression I got when we were talking about photos of contrails and you were telling me that all the formalities involved in fixing a kit to a commercial aircraft could be circumvented by governments.

Besides, it would be far more beneficial to put stuff in our water.

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Reply #40 - October 03, 2011, 09:12 PM

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Well, that's certainly not the impression I got when we were talking about photos of contrails and you were telling me that all the formalities involved in fixing a kit to a commercial aircraft could be circumvented by governments.

I was talking about spraying metallic particles into the atmosphere to, presumably, control the weather. That wasn't the same thing as the testing hazardous chemicals on the population as part of weapons 'research'.

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Besides, it would be far more beneficial to put stuff in our water.

You mean like, fluoride?
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Reply #41 - October 03, 2011, 10:39 PM

Next time you see a military aircraft flying overhead spraying you, worry. Next time you see a commercial airliner's contrails, relax.

The people you think are trying to poison us by spraying our atmosphere have to breathe the same air as us. The whole idea is preposterous.

And with that, I am leaving this thread. I only watched Mel Gibson's film "Conspiracy Theory" recently. Just because it was a pretty good film doesn't mean I want to start pretending it is all real.

Adiós!

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Reply #42 - October 03, 2011, 11:03 PM

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The people you think are trying to poison us by spraying our atmosphere have to breathe the same air as us. The whole idea is preposterous.

Okay, well, the next time they themselves release declassified documents claiming they did just that then don't believe it. After all, it's obvious they're just having a laugh with us.

Seriously though, we're talking about simple historical fact here and I've provided references. Why is this so hard to get?

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And with that, I am leaving this thread. I only watched Mel Gibson's film "Conspiracy Theory" recently. Just because it was a pretty good film doesn't mean I want to start pretending it is all real.

Oh, yeah, I've provided references and evidence, but obviously it's all just a load of inane crack-pottery because you and others say so while cracking flippant and fatuous remarks about how this is but a *gasp* 'conspiracy theory.'

I thought you were a man who didn't 'believe' anything, Rationalizer, and who 'just followed the evidence'?
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Reply #43 - October 03, 2011, 11:23 PM

@Zebedee

I live in a village on the outskirts of a city about 30 mins away from the Yorkshire dales (you can see 'chemtrails' really clear from there) there are a lot of people around here who believe in the Chemtrail thing its usually people associated with agriculture and farming, some claim their crops aren't as good as they used to be and blame the Chemtrails, so it might be to do with cutting out small farms or something, I don't know. Until there's any real proof of planes out there spraying chemicals I guess it'll just be a conspiracy to me.
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Reply #44 - October 04, 2011, 12:11 AM

Zebedee just linked to an Alex Jones video, thus invalidating every point he ever made.
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Reply #45 - October 04, 2011, 12:35 AM

Oh, would you just desist with your unassailably brilliant retorts and refutations before I'm reduced to a jibbering mess that just sits sobbing in the corner.
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Reply #46 - October 04, 2011, 12:40 AM

I'm sorry dude, but Alex Jones is the biggest joke. Posting a video of Alex Jones is like linking one of Glenn Beck. You will not be taken seriously. And in fact your whole premise becomes invalidated. Not that you had any valid points.

I love it when conspiracy theorists try to act rational.
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Reply #47 - October 04, 2011, 06:59 AM

Quote from: Zebedee on October 03, 2011, 01:59 PM
There's a few interesting things in the government-sponsored report linked to in the first article, but one that I find quite notable is this, found on page 433, at the start of chapter entitled 'Geoengineering':

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1605&page=433

This source is certainly real.

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Reply #48 - October 04, 2011, 07:47 AM

Quote from: Abood on October 04, 2011, 12:40 AM
I'm sorry dude, but Alex Jones is the biggest joke. Posting a video of Alex Jones is like linking one of Glenn Beck. You will not be taken seriously. And in fact your whole premise becomes invalidated. Not that you had any valid points.

Where the hell did you study logic?
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Reply #49 - October 04, 2011, 07:48 AM

Quote from: z10 on October 04, 2011, 06:59 AM
This source is certainly real.

Try telling that to this lot.
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