Oldest living copy of the quran/quran manuscripts ?

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Oldest living copy of the quran/quran manuscripts ?
OP - June 07, 2012, 11:43 AM

From my limited knowledge the oldest written existing copies of any part of the quran which are accepted as valid by islamic scholars are the tashkent and istanbul manuscripts which date to 150 years after the death of mo? is this correct ?

and the first completed copy of the quran is from the 12th century?

there's the sana manuscripts, which carbon dating dates to about 60 years after mo's death, but this is rejected by islamic scholars(the many differences with the 21st century quran obviously being a reason)
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Reply #1 - June 14, 2012, 01:30 PM

anybody?
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Reply #2 - June 14, 2012, 02:04 PM

there's a documentary i really like.. by dr. gerhard puin..
found transcipts dated 70 years after the death of the prophet..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsh1ZyXnMT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
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Reply #3 - June 14, 2012, 02:42 PM

Quote from: serpentofeden on June 07, 2012, 11:43 AM
there's the sana manuscripts, which carbon dating dates to about 60 years after mo's death, but this is rejected by islamic scholars(the many differences with the 21st century quran obviously being a reason)

Really? It is rejected by Islamic scholars because it is different from 21st century ones? Even though it is carbon dated and it uses the Kufa script which was the actual script used in those times. That is quite revealing about what Islamic scholars will accept as authentic. Makes you wonder about their methodology when assessing whether a Hadith is authentic...

ETA: So do they claim that it is a forgery?
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Reply #4 - June 14, 2012, 03:39 PM

Quote from: serpentofeden on June 07, 2012, 11:43 AM
From my limited knowledge the oldest written existing copies of any part of the quran which are accepted as valid by islamic scholars are the tashkent and istanbul manuscripts which date to 150 years after the death of mo? is this correct ?

and the first completed copy of the quran is from the 12th century?

there's the sana manuscripts, which carbon dating dates to about 60 years after mo's death, but this is rejected by islamic scholars(the many differences with the 21st century quran obviously being a reason)

Link to the scholarly rejections please, very very interesting and cherry picking.
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