Skip navigation
Sidebar -

Advanced search options →
↑ ↓
CEMB → Forum → Life, The Universe & Everything → Philosophy → Agnostic

Welcome

Welcome to CEMB forum.
Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email?

Donations

Help keep the Forum going!
Click on Kitty to donate:

Kitty is lost

Recent Posts

What music are you listen...
by zeca
Yesterday at 06:31 PM
Lights on the way
by akay
November 22, 2024, 02:51 PM
Do humans have needed kno...
November 22, 2024, 06:45 AM
Gaza assault
November 21, 2024, 07:56 PM
Qur'anic studies today
by zeca
November 21, 2024, 05:07 PM
New Britain
November 20, 2024, 05:41 PM
اضواء على الطريق ....... ...
by akay
November 20, 2024, 09:02 AM
Marcion and the introduct...
by zeca
November 19, 2024, 11:36 PM
Dutch elections
by zeca
November 15, 2024, 10:11 PM
Random Islamic History Po...
by zeca
November 15, 2024, 08:46 PM
AMRIKAAA Land of Free .....
November 07, 2024, 09:56 AM
The origins of Judaism
by zeca
November 02, 2024, 12:56 PM

Theme Changer

 Topic: Agnostic

 (Read 2201 times)
  • 1« Previous thread | Next thread »
  • Agnostic
     OP - August 07, 2012, 01:10 PM
    First hi everyone, its been a while.

    What do the terms theist, agnostic and atheist actually mean?

    Now the only reason I ask is because a "believer" made such a fuss about it, and I just want to make sure that I dont have it twisted.

    I always took anyone who believed in a God as a theist. In addition I always percieved the personal spiritual classification as a quadrant with one axis being gnostic (strength) and theist (position of belief). So one can be, gnostic theist, gnostic atheist, agnostic theist and agnostic atheist.

    Since most (sane!) people concede that they do not have true proof we are on both spectrums agnostics.

    NOW! here is where the problem lies, why do some people specifically claim to be exclusively agnostic? Especially when they hold the belief that some superior being indeed does exist? Doesnt that simply make them an agnostic theist which makes them like pretty much any other theist?

    My bone of contention is that they use agnostic as if it is deviod stance from theism or atheism.

    So have I got it wrong? If I have can someone point me where I can read on this?

    If I have it right, then can someone please offer links/videos which may explain this so I can pass it on to the "agnostic".

    Thanks
    n = 0 : n + [1,1,1...]
  • Re: Agnostic
     Reply #1 - August 07, 2012, 01:59 PM
    Theist: "The God that I arbitrarily define or that was pressed upon me from an early age is the one that exists, and it thinks I'm special enough to have a personal relationship with it."

    Atheist: "The supernatural characters from world mythology referred to as 'gods' do not feature on the list of things I believe exist."

    I've given up trying to decipher what the deal is with agnostics. What it means depends on which day of the week you ask them and is often quite dull and superficial.

    My favourite video explaining the concept of Atheism:

    Lack of belief in gods, by QualiaSoup
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNDZb0KtJDk

    The video that describes my own position most completely and beautifully:

    My Spirituality as an Atheist, by A. Hughman
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • 1« Previous thread | Next thread »