The wall in Israel which is isolating peoples.

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- baal1984
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The wall in Israel which is isolating peoples.
OP - July 16, 2012, 01:49 PM

http://www.tiede.fi/keskustelut/historia-kulttuurit-ja-yhteiskunta-f13/eiko-israel-nae-rauhanmahdollisuutta-aitansa-takaa-t7703-11640.html

Hello. The finn is on the road again. Yes I know my english is not fluent.
But I just want to quote to another poll in the finnish discussion board.

The subject of the poll was in english: Do we need the wall ( in Israel)

The answers was today: 201 to Yes
169 to No and 122 votes to replace the wall with the hawthorn-fence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_Muslim_Population_Pew_Forum.png

This topic has been quite challenging for me, really.
I would be interested now geography. Primarily, I hope the answer to that question in the context I mentioned. Secondary can everybody refer to it for religious-politically or practically related arguments. On the below I would like to ask from sociologically oriented writers.

Does not muslims nations have enough space for living in the east at the level of abundance? Let forgot the sacred places and objects of worship the deity, etc. They have already wery vast areas under command of Islam. For example * 1/6 the Earth's surface and about 1/4 of the world's population. I think Israel is a nation which has managed to make poor desert to paradise by their own hands and diligence. But where is muslimcountries, in the middle-ages? . I admit that there is at Saudi Arabian peninsula wealthy oil states. But when that day comes when oil is replaced by another sources of energy will those arabic countries probaply wither away.

Perhas in few minutes there will be writer ho claims that why Jews can not be living elsewhere. But this already includes in those religous-oriented presumptions. Not geographically.

What would tolerant peace loving person answer?
I think that in this case you should think carefully before answering.
If it was better for the world peace to drive Jews to mediterranean Sea was it OK to drive theocracy-oriented muslims away from the western world? Only to be equal. I red from Wikipedia that no more than ½ of the israelipeople are secular but comparably several times more than average Middle-East people.

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Re: The wall in Israel which is isolating peoples.
Reply #1 - July 16, 2012, 03:06 PM

First of all, I detest the notion that the 'Muslims' have all this land... and the Jews just want so little.
I find that whole mentality sickening.

Call them Arabs, Jordanians, Palestinians... whatever... these are the people that grew up in that area... and that is their home.
People need to focus on people first.
They shouldn't have to move just because there's a billion other Muslims.

I've never seen India in my life, but my family was driven from Africa by black nationalism. Do you think it would have been right for people to say... don't worry about it... you can go back to India or Pakistan?
That's not my home. They're not my 'people'.

That all said, I do support the wall in Israel simply because it at least begins a resolution to the problem and creates a border. I know it is not meant to be a border... but that is how I see it. I just hope the border is clean and easy to traverse. But at least once it is done, people can move and adjust their lives and begin to rebuild properly. Sure beats the last 50 years of stagnation and decline.
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Reply #2 - July 16, 2012, 03:13 PM

Quote from: baal1984 on July 16, 2012, 01:49 PM
http://www.tiede.fi/keskustelut/historia-kulttuurit-ja-yhteiskunta-f13/eiko-israel-nae-rauhanmahdollisuutta-aitansa-takaa-t7703-11640.html

Hello. The finn is on the road again. ............

Hello baal1984.. How are you doing ..long time no see . I hope you are the same baal that I used to interact..

anyways what kind of forum is that?? is that from Finland?? Why are these finland guys interested in juice and Israel?? Finland all the way next to Sweden is not living around Egypt, Jordan, Syria and our Palestinian Islamic heroes/leaders and mullahs .. Yes The walls do Isolate people but what is the other alternative?

Any way no time but I will answer your questions..

with best wishes
yeezevee

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the beloved betrayed me and turned in to a Muslim
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Reply #3 - July 16, 2012, 03:32 PM

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I hope you are the same baal that I used to interact..

Perhaps I am another baal that you are meaning to.
Thes nick, baal1984 has only been used in Finland by me in that forum I quoted.
Of course there are several baals in the web. By google-searching.
I'm sorry but do not know any yeezevees from the web...

Thank's for asking, I'm going to start an internshipcourse at the end of the summer.
I'm keen interested to start the work..

The forum Tiede means simply in english Science. For example scientist is in finnish tiedemies. And the man is mies. In the forum are more those people who have not find a job than you can demographically take. But at the end of the day I think that Tiede.fi forum is one of the best messageboard in Finland. You can find a wide range of topics for discussion on the forum.

I do not know which is the best solution for the boarder or the wall. But if I was superheroscientist I would launch an innovation what would make oil an out of date way to produce energy for the machines. Then Muslims intentions would lose its power, money.. to take a look in long run.

I have't red my homework in the Tiede-forum properly. But I think that 1/3 of the writers are intelligent from socialist-greenparty persons, one third is sharpminded right-win coalition supporters or compared to USA Republican oriented. I'm not sure if I got my point through by using google-translator... And the rest of them are the persons who just want to give more sophisticated image from themselves what they are. Perhaps sometimes they are only repeating the old message without a trace of bending.

Perhaps those writers posting on the poll I linked above are fear of the dark....Fear of the rise of Islam..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nba3Tr_GLZU

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Reply #4 - August 07, 2012, 11:31 PM

I wish countries didn't exist. Then none of this would matter.

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Reply #5 - August 08, 2012, 12:43 AM

Quote from: Sakura02 on August 07, 2012, 11:31 PM
I wish countries didn't exist. Then none of this would matter.

well they didn't exits couple of 1000 years back.. Who ever had muscle power they ran all over wherever they want..

Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything
I renounced my faith to become a kafir,
the beloved betrayed me and turned in to a Muslim
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