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Martyrs of Córdoba
OP - November 06, 2012, 12:45 PM

Interesing piece of history. Adds a little shade to the bright, flawless light of the Islamic golden age in Spain, I guess.

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The Martyrs of Córdoba were forty-eight Christian martyrs living in the 9th century Muslim-ruled Al-Andalus, in what is now southern Spain; their hagiography describes in detail their executions for deliberately sought capital violations of Muslim law in Al-Andalus. The martyrdoms instanced by Eulogius took place between 851 and 859; with few exceptions, the Christians invited execution by making public statements tactically chosen to invite martyrdom: some martyrs appeared before the Muslim authorities to denounce Muhammad; others, possibly Christian children of Islamic-Christian marriages, publicly proclaimed their Christianity as apostates (Coope 1995). The lack of an interested chronicler after Eulogius' own martyrdom has given way to the misimpression that there were fewer episodes later in the 9th century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrs_of_cordoba

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Reply #1 - November 06, 2012, 01:27 PM

The Martyrs of Córdoba - Sharia Law in the 9th century Spain

That subject is hidden from public eye and the only thing fools like This one with split teeth talk about is Golden Age of Islam in Spain.. She has problem of understanding wars and warlords of Islam with that human spirituality.. whatever that may be... and she creates stories over stories without reading History of Islam< Quran, Hadith... Damn forget subject, her voice irritates me..

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Reply #2 - November 06, 2012, 01:43 PM

Here's the entire book about it by Kenneth Baxter Wolf:

Christian Martyrs in Muslim Spain
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Reply #3 - November 06, 2012, 05:45 PM

Ever reliable Tony

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Reply #4 - November 06, 2012, 08:28 PM

There were also quite a few Jews slaughtered at various times. Will see if I can find some references later.

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Reply #5 - November 06, 2012, 08:54 PM

Here ya go: quick and dirty reference hunting, courtesy of Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre

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Particularly instructive in this respect is an ancient anti-Semitic poem of Abu Ishaq, written in Granada in 1066. This poem, which is said to be instrumental in provoking the anti-Jewish outbreak of that year, contains these specific lines:

Do not consider it a breach of faith to kill them, the breach of faith would be to let them carry on.
They have violated our covenant with them, so how can you be held guilty against the violators?
How can they have any pact when we are obscure and they are prominent?
Now we are humble, beside them, as if we were wrong and they were right!

According to this list there was another massacre in Cordoba in 1011, but Wiki doesn't appear to have an article about it.

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Reply #6 - November 06, 2012, 08:56 PM

cheers os, very interesting.

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Reply #7 - November 06, 2012, 09:08 PM

This looks interesting too, although I haven't been right through it or checked the references yet. Unfortunately a lot of the links that come up are JihadWatch or its fans, but this one seems ok so far.

http://www.mmisi.org/ir/41_02/fernandez-morera.pdf

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Both the Muslims and the Catholics were treated harshly in some of the works of the Andalusian Talmudic commentator and philosopher Moses Maimonides (1135-1204). His views could have been affected by his unhappy experiences: the almohades’ enforced conversions caused Maimonides and his family to escape first to the Catholic kingdoms and later to Morocco and Egypt. No wonder that in a letter to Jewish Yemenites he wrote that no “nation” compared to Islam in the damage and humiliation it had inflicted on “Israel.”

By any objective standards, then, and in spite of its undeniable artistic, literary, and scientific accomplishments, and of modern wishful “let-us-all-get-along” thinking that tries to gloss over evidence to the contrary, Islamic Spain was not a model of multicultural harmony. Andalusia was beset by religious, political, and racial conflicts controlled in the best of times only by the application of tyrannical force. Its achievements are inseparable from its turmoil.

How then can one explain the persistence of the belief that Andalusia was a land of peaceful coexistence? The historian Richard Fletcher has attempted one possible explanation: “[In] the cultural conditions that prevail in the West today the past has to be marketed, and to be successfully marketed it has to be attractively packaged. Medieval Spain in a state of nature lacks wide appeal. Self-indulgent fantasies of glamour...do wonders for sharpening up its image. But Moorish Spain was not a tolerant and enlightened society even in its most cultivated epoch.”

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