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OP - September 19, 2013, 02:10 PM

In a conversation with my teacher I said any joke, or criticism, or doubt on a religions core claim of truth is an act of blasphemy. He assured me that as a non-believer I can't direct an insult at god so I'm in the clear. Surely this means I am outside his jurisdiction, which undermines his power? Not only that, he assured me most religious people wouldn't consider a joke about god blasphemy, but this is surely taken false security in consensus.

Can someone explain how exactly blasphemy works? We were talking specifically about Christians in this case but doesn't this extent to all gods?
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Reply #1 - September 19, 2013, 02:58 PM

Quote from: Lacktavist on September 19, 2013, 02:10 PM
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Can someone explain how exactly blasphemy works? We were talking specifically about Christians in this case but doesn't this extent to all gods?

hello Lacktavist... are you asking about the scriptural basis of "how exactly blasphemy works" or how it worked/works in 21st century in real life??

Blasphemy in Judaism_Rabbi Louis Jacobs

Blasphemy Laws: Christianity_ dr. Larry Wolff

and for Blasphemy in Islam watch these tubes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD_r24KL3-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr8V9GOeVU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77WlXY7r-R8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pMV9ermII

Now if you want to learn about Blasphemy in so-called other religions apart from Abrahamic faiths then go read here .. you can read everything that happened for the past 2000 years or so in the name allah/god/voodoo..doooodo ..whatever and all those cock and bull stories..

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Reply #2 - September 19, 2013, 09:54 PM

Quote from: Lacktavist on September 19, 2013, 02:10 PM
In a conversation with my teacher I said any joke, or criticism, or doubt on a religions core claim of truth is an act of blasphemy. He assured me that as a non-believer I can't direct an insult at god so I'm in the clear. Surely this means I am outside his jurisdiction, which undermines his power? Not only that, he assured me most religious people wouldn't consider a joke about god blasphemy, but this is surely taken false security in consensus.

Can someone explain how exactly blasphemy works? We were talking specifically about Christians in this case but doesn't this extent to all gods?

Maybe you'd better ask Christians, then. Different ones will probably have different definitions of blasphemy. We have a pet one running around at the moment, and she'd probably welcome a break from the other thread.

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Reply #3 - September 20, 2013, 02:31 AM

Quote from: Lacktavist on September 19, 2013, 02:10 PM
In a conversation with my teacher I said any joke, or criticism, or doubt on a religions core claim of truth is an act of blasphemy. He assured me that as a non-believer I can't direct an insult at god so I'm in the clear.

Let me assure you that's wrong.

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #4 - September 20, 2013, 10:06 AM

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Reply #5 - September 24, 2013, 05:09 PM

Quote from: Lacktavist on September 19, 2013, 02:10 PM
In a conversation with my teacher I said any joke, or criticism, or doubt on a religions core claim of truth is an act of blasphemy. He assured me that as a non-believer I can't direct an insult at god so I'm in the clear. Surely this means I am outside his jurisdiction, which undermines his power? Not only that, he assured me most religious people wouldn't consider a joke about god blasphemy, but this is surely taken false security in consensus.

Can someone explain how exactly blasphemy works? We were talking specifically about Christians in this case but doesn't this extent to all gods?

Well God won't send you to Hell for criticizing him or making a joke about him. There is something in the NT about blasphemy against God, but does not state what the blasphemy is.
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Reply #6 - September 24, 2013, 05:15 PM

Quote from: C1981 on September 24, 2013, 05:09 PM
God him or him.

god is he?? himm... didn't know god is a dick head .... i though god is sexless.. may be she...

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Reply #7 - September 24, 2013, 05:17 PM

I keep on referring to God as a male out of force of habit. God has no gender.
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Reply #8 - September 24, 2013, 05:20 PM

Quote from: C1981 on September 24, 2013, 05:17 PM
I keep on referring to God as a male out of force of habit. God has no gender.

well let us change the BAD habits ma'am .... because that god as "he" the rascals, male species took advantage of that "pronoun"

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Reply #9 - September 24, 2013, 05:25 PM

There are words that describe someone in a genderless way. Very neutral

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #10 - September 24, 2013, 05:58 PM

Well unfortunately I am not politically correct.
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Reply #11 - September 24, 2013, 06:01 PM

Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on September 24, 2013, 05:25 PM
... someone in a genderless way. Very neutral

how about "It"? that will satisfy all .. this god being super duper in charge of everything.. male/female/animals.. eukaryotes, prokaryotes, bacteria ., and all materials.. all 100 or so elements.. electrons.. protons..neutrons.. and all sub atomic particles.. etc..etc..

I Think " IT" is a perfect genderless way of representing god....

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Reply #12 - September 24, 2013, 06:06 PM

Quote from: C1981 on September 24, 2013, 05:09 PM
Well God won't send you to Hell for criticizing him or making a joke about him. There is something in the NT about blasphemy against God, but does not state what the blasphemy is.

Denying the Holy Ghost/Spirit is an unpardonable offence. I suppose that could count as blasphemy.
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Reply #13 - September 24, 2013, 09:00 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on September 24, 2013, 06:01 PM
how about "It"? that will satisfy all .. this god being super duper in charge of everything.. male/female/animals.. eukaryotes, prokaryotes, bacteria ., and all materials.. all 100 or so elements.. electrons.. protons..neutrons.. and all sub atomic particles.. etc..etc..

I Think " IT" is a perfect genderless way of representing god....

It is so impersonal. I am not talking about a thing here, although there are probably some Atheists who view God as a thing.
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Reply #14 - September 24, 2013, 09:01 PM

Quote from: Kodanshi on September 24, 2013, 06:06 PM
Denying the Holy Ghost/Spirit is an unpardonable offence. I suppose that could count as blasphemy.

No it is not counted as blasphemy. Denying the Holy Ghost can be forgiven.
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