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 Topic: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???

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  • Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     OP - November 10, 2011, 01:41 AM

    I just got this story mentioned to me and it's the first time I heard it. Anyone heard of this? If you have can we have the details of the story please.

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #1 - November 10, 2011, 01:46 AM

    i don't think moe knew what snow is. wasn't even mentioned in the quran.
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #2 - November 10, 2011, 01:47 AM

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    Life of Holy Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) before Starting the Mission
    By: Ahmad Rahnamaei

    <snip>

    The Story of the Splitting of the Prophet’s chest
    In several sources from both Sunni and Shi'i traditions, one may find the story of the splitting of the Prophet's chest. although the original narrative comes from Sunni tradition, the story is narrated in some Shi'i books too. Different attitudes are expressed by biographers towards this extraordinary anecdote. On the whole, most Sunni scholarship has agreed upon the authenticity of the story, while to the contrary, most Shi'i scholarship has rejected it.
    According to Ibn Ishaq, quoting Halima, the story went like this: Some months after our return, he and his brother were with our lambs behind the tents when his brother came running and said to us, 'Two men clothed in white have seized that Qurayshi brother of mine and thrown him down and opened up his belly, and are stirring it up.' We ran towards him and found him standing up with a livid face. We took hold of him and asked him what the matter was. He said, 'Two men in white raiment came and threw me down and opened up my belly and searched therein for I know not what.' So we took him back to our tent.[37]
    This incident was what prompted his foster-mother to return him to his mother. Ibn Ishaq then relates another hadith on the authority of a learned person whom he thinks was khalid b. Ma'dan. This person, on the authority of some of the Apostle's companions, told Ibn Ishaq that the Prophet said: … I was suckled among the B. Sa cd b. Bakr, and while I was with a brother of mine behind our tents shepherding the lambs, two men in white raiment came to me with a gold basin full of snow. Then they seized me and opened up my belly, extracted my heart and split it; then they extracted a black drop from it and threw it away; then they washed my heart and my belly with that snow until they had thoroughly cleaned them. …2
    In Sahih of Muslim, the story is narrated through a chain on the authority of Anas b. Malik. According to the hadith of Anas, the extracted black drop was the portion of Satan in the Prophet's heart. At the end of this narrative, Anas mentions that he himself used to see the mark of that splitting on the chest of the prophet.[38]


    Citations:
    [37] Ibn Ishaq, The Life, pp. 71-72.
    [38] Muslim, Sahih, Vol. 1, pp. 165-166, Hadith 261 ; Murtada, Al-Sahih, v.1, pp. 82-83.

    Source


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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #3 - November 10, 2011, 01:48 AM

    K found it too... Don't know where the snow part came from though :s

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #4 - November 10, 2011, 01:51 AM

    Snow comes from the sky akhi Wink

    Meh, it was probably just added on somewhere along the way. It's all stories anyway. Shias actually deny this story, claiming that Mo was perfect and infallible from the moment he was born.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #5 - November 10, 2011, 01:57 AM

    i don't think snow would survived more than a second in the desert of arabia. Cheesy

    so where do muslims know where the snow came from?
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #6 - November 10, 2011, 02:05 AM

    Snow was invented by Muslims in Mecca, akhi, then the white devil stole it, you see. That's why it only snows in the western countries now. yes

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #7 - November 10, 2011, 02:07 AM

    what about lebanon and iran?  Tongue
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #8 - November 10, 2011, 02:07 AM

    Pfft. Heretic scum.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #9 - November 10, 2011, 02:07 AM

    http://en.rian.ru/world/20080111/96210251.html

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #10 - November 10, 2011, 02:10 AM

    it's a sign that the devil has taken over the land of the pure.

    astaghfirullah.
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #11 - November 10, 2011, 02:10 AM



    Marshmallowallahyallah.... see Allah be bringing that back now to clean the hearts of the ummah piggy

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #12 - November 10, 2011, 02:11 AM

    Quote
    wallahyallah

    don't make fun of arabic

     Cheesy
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #13 - November 10, 2011, 02:12 AM

    Just did an impromptu google for that. I remembered seeing snow in the sub tropics about 20 years ago, and I know deserts get cold sometimes, so.................

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #14 - November 10, 2011, 03:15 AM

    I just got this story mentioned to me and it's the first time I heard it. Anyone heard of this? If you have can we have the details of the story please.


    I assume you have never been to Islamiyyah?, anyway never mind, its kinda surprising because its one of the things that our tutor taught us with an emphasis during seerah class

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  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #15 - November 13, 2011, 12:26 PM

    AMAZING!

    My dad was in this pure and pristine place, these human like beings dressed in white, came and opened his chest to get rid of the disease of the heart.

    I'm not lying.

    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #16 - November 13, 2011, 04:14 PM

    What is the Arabic word for SNOW or the Proto-Semitic word for Snow???

  • Re: Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #17 - November 13, 2011, 05:22 PM

    he got that from the juice too.

    Hast thou entered the treasuries of the snow?" (Job 38:22).

    (6) Snow is the symbol of purity and cleanness, giving us some of our most beautiful passages of Scripture:

    "Wash me and I shall be whiter than snow" (Ps 51:7)

    "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow" (Isa 1:18).

    "His raiment was white as snow" (Dan 7:9; Mt 28:3; Mk 9:3; Rev 1:14).

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    Helen Keller
  • Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #18 - September 30, 2013, 02:10 AM

    Well, I've learned something new. Was anyone else familiar with this?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #19 - September 30, 2013, 12:55 PM

    In sahih muslim, it is zamzam water, not snow, with everything else in the story otherwise the same.

    "It was narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) that that Jibreel came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he was playing with the other boys. He took hold of him and threw him to the ground, then he opened his chest and took out his heart, from which he took a clot of blood and said: “This was the Shaytaan’s share of you.” Then he washed it in a vessel of gold that was filled with Zamzam. Then he put it back together and returned it to its place. The boys went running to his mother – meaning his nurse – and said: Muhammad has been killed! They went to him and his colour had changed. Anas said: I used to see the mark of that stitching on his chest."

  • Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #20 - September 30, 2013, 01:41 PM

    I remember some muslim in my old old workplace presenting a Christian woman with a copy of the qur’an. I was a muslim at the time. The book had footnotes and accompanying margin notes, etc. The very first page had that ridiculous story about Mo’s heart, and I remember being embarrassed when she asked me: “Do you really believe this?!” I didn’t believe it. It embarrassed me because it seemed so obviously a fairytale.
  • Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #21 - October 01, 2013, 01:24 AM

    I also heard it with Zamzam water.

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  • Prophet Muhammad got his heart removed and cleaned with snow???
     Reply #22 - October 01, 2013, 02:00 AM

    I seem to remember something about how when Mo was a child he had evil/temptation removed from him, or he was born without it.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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