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Reply #30 - September 19, 2013, 12:54 AM

But should it be taken as equally valid? The fact you don't believe it is irrelevant in this situation because I believe it. Or, if the fact you don't believe what I believe is relevant, then you're agreeing it shouldn't be treated as equally valid.

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #31 - September 19, 2013, 01:05 AM

My answer is no
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Reply #32 - September 19, 2013, 01:13 AM

No, it should not be treated as equally valid?

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #33 - September 19, 2013, 01:34 AM

It should not be treated as equally valid.
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Reply #34 - September 19, 2013, 01:36 AM

Great, we agree

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #35 - September 19, 2013, 01:53 AM

Yes we agree
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Reply #36 - September 19, 2013, 01:59 AM

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #37 - September 19, 2013, 02:07 AM
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Reply #38 - October 16, 2013, 08:49 AM

There is no conflict between religion and science. As any fule kno, religion owns science. Hark ye to Yahoo answers.

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No such thing as flying donkey in Islam. There is a possibility that Prophet s.a.w. used a wormhole (معارج) by riding a Buraq once in the event of Isra' and Mi'raj.

A wormhole contracts the distance between two doorways placed separately anywhere in the universe. This isn't really a time travel; this is just a consequence of the length contraction inside a wormhole.

Allah gave this method of transportation to his angels throughout the universe. The Quran calls them ‘Ma'arej معارج’ and describes how angels use them for long distance travel. Today we know that these ‘Ma'arej’ is what scientists call wormholes:

More here:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091114160302AAEbMlC
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Reply #39 - October 16, 2013, 12:37 PM

Quote from: C1981 on September 17, 2013, 01:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_thesis

So what is your opinion and the bottom line of that wiki link C1981??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZK8Xt5fJiI

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Reply #40 - October 16, 2013, 02:45 PM

Quote from: David on October 16, 2013, 08:49 AM
Today we know that these ‘Ma'arej’ is what scientists call wormholes:

And dreams are a method of interdimensional travel... Damn my parallel me's, they are so much more awesome in their realities than mine. Stupid universe!
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Reply #41 - October 16, 2013, 05:18 PM

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #42 - October 16, 2013, 06:38 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on October 16, 2013, 12:37 PM
So what is your opinion and the bottom line of that wiki link C1981??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZK8Xt5fJiI

well to be honest depending on how you look at it, I don't believe there is much of a conflict between religion and science. I am speaking in terms of Christianity.
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Reply #43 - October 16, 2013, 06:41 PM

Quote from: bogart on October 16, 2013, 02:45 PM
And dreams are a method of interdimensional travel... Damn my parallel me's, they so much more awesome in their realities than mine. Stupid universe!

Actually if astral projection is true, then dreams are definitely a method of interdimensional travel.
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Reply #44 - October 16, 2013, 06:50 PM

I seriously doubt astral projection is true. Exploring the subconscious is one thing, having your conscious mind actually leave your body and travel places is about as likely as me sprouting wings and fluttering away.

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #45 - October 16, 2013, 07:25 PM

You are close with astral projection. It is the soul temporarily leaving the body.
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Reply #46 - October 16, 2013, 08:03 PM

I would define the soul in the sense of astral projection as being your consciousness.

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #47 - October 16, 2013, 08:13 PM

Can consciousness touch objects?
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Reply #48 - October 16, 2013, 08:30 PM

Can an astral form?

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Reply #49 - October 16, 2013, 09:03 PM

To answer your question:

Yes
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Reply #50 - October 16, 2013, 09:20 PM

Quote from: C1981 on October 16, 2013, 06:41 PM
Actually if astral projection is true, then dreams are definitely a method of interdimensional travel.

My point was to show how absurd it is to attach a belief to hypothetical ideas in order to rationalize one's beliefs. It's grasping at straws in order to portray one's beliefs as valid using concepts that have methods of validation. However many fail to understand the concepts used at time have no evidence in support, the idea is completely theoretical. In the end they prove nothing but their own ignorance.
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Reply #51 - October 16, 2013, 11:06 PM

Point taken.
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