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 Topic: CANCEL that trip to MARS

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  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     OP - February 19, 2014, 11:51 PM

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/19/mars-muslims-fatwa_n_4815655.html

    Gulf Imams Issue Fatwa Against Muslims Travelling To Mars

    Gulf imams have issued a Fatwa against Muslims travelling to Mars.

    Likening attempts to send astronauts on a one way trip to the Red Planet to suicide, the clerics said no good Muslim could agree to go knowing he would not return.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #1 - February 19, 2014, 11:54 PM

    So when we finally send a manned mission to Mars, and if it just happens to be with a Muslim on board, they'd be sinning?  Cool

    It wouldn't be suicide if we built those nuclear pulse propelled ships we planned to in the 60s.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #2 - February 19, 2014, 11:56 PM

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/19/mars-muslims-fatwa_n_4815655.html

    Gulf Imams Issue Fatwa Against Muslims Travelling To Mars

    Gulf imams have issued a Fatwa against Muslims travelling to Mars.
     

      Those IDIOTS don't know people already PISSED AND THROW SHIT ON THE MOON for which they hold in high esteem in Islam.

    anyways let me give the right link that is from  khaleejtimes.com

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/inside.asp?xfile=/data/nationgeneral/2014/February/nationgeneral_February150.xml&section=nationgeneral

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #3 - February 19, 2014, 11:57 PM

    Why are they against dawah to aliens?
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #4 - February 20, 2014, 12:03 AM

    On a side note, it makes me want to puke how much society has abandoned space exploration, but then again it is very understandable.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #5 - February 20, 2014, 12:11 AM

    Why are they against dawah to aliens?


    Because they will ask 'Allah Who?'  grin12

    This is a joke that Desi's will get. I hope...  Huh?

    Allah who?  Roll Eyes

    Allah hoo...  mysmilie_977

     finmad

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #6 - February 20, 2014, 08:47 PM

    It certainly resolves the issues around which direction to pray in.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #7 - February 21, 2014, 08:37 AM

    How would you pray on Mars to Earth anyway?
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #8 - February 21, 2014, 09:22 AM

    Planetary rotation?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #9 - February 21, 2014, 11:43 AM

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    They said that according to the Quran suicide is forbidden and leaving on the mission would be akin to choosing death over life.

    Unless they would issue a fatwa against Mars off course.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #10 - February 23, 2014, 09:31 AM

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    Mars One appeal for fatwa against Muslims applying to take part in trip to the Red Planet to be called off by Islamic council


    In a written response to the Fatwa it highlighted a verse that says 'and among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colors: verily in that are Signs for those who know (Quran 30: 22)'.

    It said: 'The Muslim world has a rich tradition of exploration. The verse from the Quran [above] encourages Muslims to go out and see the signs of God’s creation in the "heavens and the earth". The most influential example of this was the Moroccan Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta, who from 1325 to 1355 travelled 73,000 miles, visiting the equivalent of 44 modern countries.'


    Mars One also disputed that the mission was tantamount to suicide.


    The organisation said: 'Space exploration, just like Earth exploration, will come with risks and rewards. It may seem extremely dangerous to send humans to Mars today, but the humans will be preceded by at least eight cargo missions.


    'Robotic unmanned vehicles will prepare the habitable settlement. Water and a breathable atmosphere will be produced inside the habitat and the settlement will be operational for two years, even before the first crew leaves Earth.


    'If we may be so bold: the GAIAE should not analyze the risk as they perceive it today. The GAIAE should assess the potential risk for humans as if an unmanned habitable outpost is ready and waiting on Mars. Any progress requires taking risks, but in this case the reward is "the next giant leap for mankind". That reward is certainly worth the risks involved in this mission.'


    It added: 'Mars One respectfully requests GAIAE to cancel the Fatwa and make the greatest Rihla, or journey, of all times open for Muslims, too. They can be the first Muslims to witness the signs of God’s creation in heaven, drawing upon the rich culture of travel and exploration of early Islam.


    'The lives and journey of the first Mars settlers will tell us more about our place in the universe than any other humans before us. As Ibn Battuta also wrote: "Travelling - it leaves you speechless, then turns you into a storyteller."'


    The GAIAE has issued around two million Fatwas through its Official Fatwa Centre since its inception in 2008.


    Over 200,000 people, including 500 Saudis and Arabs, have applied to take part in the multi-billion pound missions so far.


    In December Mars One short-listed 1,058 people to take part in trials for the ambitious project.


    Co-founder Bas Lansdorp said: ‘We’re extremely appreciative and impressed with the sheer number of people who submitted their applications.


    'However, the challenge with 200,000 applicants is separating those who we feel are physically and mentally adept to become human ambassadors on Mars from those who are obviously taking the mission much less seriously. We even had a couple of applicants submit their videos in the nude!’


    Mars lies on average 141.6million miles from the Sun and has an average temperature of -85F (-65C). Its atmosphere is desperately thin - one per cent of Earth's pressure - and is 95 per cent carbon dioxide.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564671/Mars-One-appeals-Islamic-leaders-call-fatwa-against-Muslims-applying-trip-Red-Planet.html

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #11 - February 23, 2014, 09:47 AM

    Why waste a religious ruling on something that's never going to happen anyway?  Mars One is just a scam.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #12 - February 23, 2014, 09:54 AM

    Atleast it means Mars will be a secular planet.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #13 - February 23, 2014, 10:00 AM

    Why waste a religious ruling on something that's never going to happen anyway?  Mars One is just a scam.

    I truly hope not.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #14 - February 23, 2014, 10:00 AM

    Atleast it means Mars will be a secular planet.

     Cheesy

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #15 - February 23, 2014, 10:05 AM

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    I truly hope not.


    If you believe Mars One is going to happen, I have a bridge to sell you.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #16 - February 23, 2014, 10:10 AM

    Is it a magic bridge?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #17 - February 23, 2014, 10:13 AM

    Yeah, sure, as long as you have the money.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #18 - February 23, 2014, 10:20 AM

    If you have a magic bridge for sale, I have the money. Afro

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #19 - February 23, 2014, 10:23 AM

    No, no, you have to pony the money up first Tongue  I promise to give the bridge later
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #20 - February 23, 2014, 10:37 AM

    I'm stupid enough to buy the bridge, not stupid enough to not see it first. Cheesy

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #21 - February 23, 2014, 10:43 AM

    What kind of con artist would I be if I showed you it first?
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #22 - February 23, 2014, 10:47 AM

    Moving on, how come you're so sure it won't happen?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #23 - February 23, 2014, 10:50 AM

    A dutch capitalist trying to make a reality tv show on Mars?  That doesn't scream "scam" to you?

    Wealthy capitalist aren't going to lead the next venture into space for the same reason they never ushered it to begin with.
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #24 - February 23, 2014, 11:05 AM

    So you don't think there will ever be a settlement on Mars or just not in our lifetime?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • CANCEL that trip to MARS
     Reply #25 - February 23, 2014, 11:12 AM

    We could settle Mars right now with current available technology, but we're not going to see it done by our current society.  We could have and should have settled the Moon in the 70s and at least attempted Venus and Mars missions in the 70s (the Soviets certainly were going to, until their internal crisis).  We simply lack the will, not the means.

    I think a wealthy capitalist selling slots for a reality TV show on Mars is most probably a scam, though.
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