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OP - June 15, 2014, 02:03 PM

With regard to the punishment of the drinker in this world, the punishment is flogging, according to the consensus of the fuqaha’, because of the report narrated by Muslim (3281) from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) flogged the one who had drunk wine with palm branches stripped of their leaves and with shoes.

But there is some difference of opinion as to the number of lashes. The majority of scholars are of the view that it is eighty lashes for a free man and forty for others.

They quoted as evidence the hadeeth of Anas quoted above, in which it says that a man who had drunk wine was brought to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he had him flogged forty times with two palm branches that had been stripped of their leaves. Abu Bakr also did likewise (during his caliphate). When ‘Umar was the caliph, he consulted the people and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan said, “The minimum punishment is eighty,” so that is what ‘Umar commanded.

The Sahaabah agreed with ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) and did not differ. The Council of Senior Scholars is agreed that the punishment for one who drinks wine is the hadd punishment, which is eighty lashes.

Some of the scholars – such as Ibn Quddamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) and Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah] in al-Ikhtiyaaraat – think that giving more than forty lashes is left to the discretion of the Muslim leader. So if he thinks that there is a need to give more than forty lashes, as happened at the time of ‘Umar, then he may make it eighty. And Allaah knows best.”

(See Tawdeeh al-Ahkaam, 5/330)

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Reply #1 - June 15, 2014, 04:27 PM

This might sound condescending but it's a genuine question.
Is this new information to you or to others here?
I grew up with that stuff so it's second nature to me, but come to think of it, maybe not everyone was exposed to this.

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Reply #2 - June 15, 2014, 04:50 PM

Gives British colloquialisms a whole new meaning.

Going out on the lash? oh I think indeed you are.

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Reply #3 - June 15, 2014, 05:37 PM

I recall a story about two muslims walking down the road. As they were walking they noticed some non muslims chilling out having as few drinks. One of the muslims went to tell them off, the other stopped him and said...something. At least if their drinking their not...or better they drink than...

Fuck, anybody know what I'm on about? Came across it years ago when I was studying islam.

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Reply #4 - June 15, 2014, 06:26 PM

Quote from: kulay on June 15, 2014, 04:27 PM
This might sound condescending but it's a genuine question.
Is this new information to you or to others here?
I grew up with that stuff so it's second nature to me, but come to think of it, maybe not everyone was exposed to this.

A Danish-Turkish Muslim woman I know posted a picture of the bottle of Raki they were drinking this morning at 4 AM, so I guess not

She even is a teacher at a Muslim school

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Reply #5 - June 15, 2014, 06:35 PM

^

From what I've heard the majority of turks drink alcohol. A turkish muslim drinking alcohol is pretty normal actually.

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Reply #6 - June 15, 2014, 06:44 PM

Quote from: kulay on June 15, 2014, 04:27 PM
This might sound condescending but it's a genuine question.
Is this new information to you or to others here?
I grew up with that stuff so it's second nature to me, but come to think of it, maybe not everyone was exposed to this.

Just as Muslims require reminders of the bounties and mercy of Allah (swa) so do murtads.

Oh Allah, please keep me upon the path of those who have gone astray,
The path of those who smoke the wacky backy,
Those who consume the Apple Schnapps,
And not upon the path of those who worship you,
nor those who eat dates because it is sunnah,
or those who drink zam-zam for they think it will give them superpowers.

(know what) Ameen

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Reply #7 - June 15, 2014, 09:37 PM

Quote from: TheDarkRebel on June 15, 2014, 06:35 PM
^

From what I've heard the majority of turks drink alcohol. A turkish muslim drinking alcohol is pretty normal actually.

I remember watching a documentary on bride kidnappings in Kyrgyzstan a few years ago and it was the *IMAM* that was pouring out shots of vodka at the wedding. Good old #SovietValues.

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Reply #8 - June 16, 2014, 11:44 AM

Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 15, 2014, 05:37 PM
I recall a story about two muslims walking down the road. As they were walking they noticed some non muslims chilling out having as few drinks. One of the muslims went to tell them off, the other stopped him and said...something. At least if their drinking their not...or better they drink than...

Fuck, anybody know what I'm on about? Came across it years ago when I was studying islam.

No one recognises this?

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Reply #9 - June 16, 2014, 11:50 AM

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Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 15, 2014, 05:37 PM
I recall a story about two muslims walking down the road. As they were walking they noticed some non muslims chilling out having as few drinks. One of the muslims went to tell them off, the other stopped him and said...something. At least if their drinking their not...or better they drink than...

Fuck, anybody know what I'm on about? Came across it years ago when I was studying islam.

Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 16, 2014, 11:44 AM
No one recognises this?

Hmm QSM writes post and replies to his own post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVgsltaB6Hc

Lucky QSM and lucky non muslim guys chilling out having few drinks., they didn't come across real Muslims during that few drinks..

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Reply #10 - June 16, 2014, 02:39 PM

^ no i don't understand what it means, doesn't make sense to me Quod
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Reply #11 - June 16, 2014, 02:53 PM

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Quote from: Quod Sum Eris says this on June 15, 2014, 05:37 PM
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Fuck, anybody know what I'm on about?

Quote from: suki doesn't understand that on June 16, 2014, 02:39 PM
^ no i don't understand what it means, doesn't make sense to me Quod

what is there to understand suki? QSM says Cannabis is good for health

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