Islam is True After All

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Re: Islam is True After All
Reply #30 - March 18, 2009, 09:49 PM

Quote from: Cheetah on March 18, 2009, 07:44 PM
In their bellies??? Bile juice, anyone?

lol... and that's another mistake - but I'm sure Muslims will come up with some crap.

The more time passes the more I can't believe I was taken in by all this. Faith can do amazing things to one's mind - forget Heroin or LSD - RELIGION is the strongest and most addictive drug known to man.

I feel so fortunate I was able to kick it - I wish I could shake others and slap them so they wake up.
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Re: Islam is True After All
Reply #31 - March 18, 2009, 10:08 PM

We should keep all these gems somewhere - some of the members of this forum have come up with some real damning evidence that I have not seen before.

I just wish they dont get lost in this thread in the distant future

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Re: Islam is True After All
Reply #32 - March 18, 2009, 10:27 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 18, 2009, 09:49 PM
Quote from: Cheetah on March 18, 2009, 07:44 PM
In their bellies??? Bile juice, anyone?

lol... and that's another mistake - but I'm sure Muslims will come up with some crap.

The more time passes the more I can't believe I was taken in by all this. Faith can do amazing things to one's mind - forget Heroin or LSD - RELIGION is the strongest and most addictive drug known to man.

I feel so fortunate I was able to kick it - I wish I could shake others and slap them so they wake up.

After reading Bob's post about taurine, I think I can predict what the crap will be.....

The Qur'an invented Red Bull, western scientists only discovered this very recently but the Qur'an knew about it centuries ago, how is this possible if it was not divinely authored? The Qur'an gives you wings!

Zakir Naik is probably making a You Tube as we speak.

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Re: Islam is True After All
Reply #33 - March 18, 2009, 10:28 PM

Quote from: Cheetah on March 18, 2009, 10:27 PM
The Qur'an gives you wings!

Zakir Naik is probably making a You Tube as we speak.
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Re: Islam is True After All
Reply #34 - March 19, 2009, 09:39 AM

Quote from: IsLame on March 18, 2009, 10:08 PM
We should keep all these gems somewhere - some of the members of this forum have come up with some real damning evidence that I have not seen before.

I just wish they dont get lost in this thread in the distant future

I started compiling any interesting quotes/posts I came across in this forum the other day. When I have enough in my collection (which will be a while yet) I'll make some threads in the resources section containing them.

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Reply #35 - March 19, 2009, 02:05 PM

good idea - you could stick them there for now, and we all could keep updating it..

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Re: Islam is True After All
Reply #36 - March 19, 2009, 10:39 PM

Quote from: Pazuzu on March 18, 2009, 07:41 PM
Another thing I've happed upon and would like the Arabic-speaking people here to elucidate:

And verily! In the cattle, there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of that which is in their bellies. [16:66]

Someone brought to my attention that the word 'butunihi' (translated as their bellies) comes in two forms and depends on its place in a sentence. In this case it should actually read 'butuniha'. Is this true? I ask because those same words occur again in 23:21 with the same order and grammar... but this time using the word 'butuniha'.

And Verily! In the cattle there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of that which is in their bellies. [23:21]

Batni means abdomen, but not exclusively the digestive tract:

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"...‏إن أحدكم يجمع خلقه في بطن أمه أربعين يوما ثم يكون في ذلك ‏ ‏علقة ‏ ‏مثل ذلك ثم يكون في ذلك ‏ ‏مضغة"

Inna ahada kum yuhma'u khalquhu fee batni ummahi arba'eena yawman, Thumma yakoonu 'alaqatan mithla dhalika, Thumma yakoonu mudhghatan...

"A human being is created in the womb of his mother for forty days, then he becomes an alaqa for an equivalent period, then he becomes a mudgha "

-Sahih Bukhari book 55, number 549

In 23:21 the word butooniha was only used once. It is written as " بطونها ", but this is the same word as batni, just written differently as a plural.

Actually in 23:21 the singular feminine ها- is used, but that is how you form a plural for a group of non-human creatures.

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