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OP - January 21, 2014, 12:13 PM

the claim is that arabic poetry must be limited to one of 16 rythmical patterns (and the quran isnt any of them).

I would like to know why would this be the case, if indeed it is the case at all.
Is there any non arbitrary reason why Arabic poetry would be limited to this tiny list of patterns? Is there some mathematical or logical reason why?
I don't know who to ask about this. Obviously Tzortzis and crew have absolutely no idea how to justify their claims. Nobody else I have asked has any idea either.
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Reply #1 - January 21, 2014, 01:42 PM

i was looking for clues on youtube, and came across an arabic prosody playlist. This is one of the videos in it.
I think he has the answer. case closed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ipJ_xbt8A&list=PLuXFvWL4eotsGXu94jbHLmFGAzUjkUUOJ
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Reply #2 - April 05, 2014, 04:54 PM

If we translate an English poem in Arabic, is it no longer 'poetry'? (as it would obviously not be one of bihar)
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Reply #3 - April 05, 2014, 05:04 PM

what a creator of the Universe, locating the irrefutable evidence for his omnipotent existence in the trivial textual and rhetorical analysis of parochial and miniscule poems from a tiny period of time in a small part of a planet.

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #4 - April 05, 2014, 05:24 PM

I love Muhammad Ibn Zakariya al-Razi's quote on the Quran. It exposes the Quran challenge for the nonsense that it is.

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You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: "Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one." Indeed, we shall produce a thousand similar, from the works of rhetoricians, eloquent speakers and valiant poets, which are more appropriately phrased and state the issues more succinctly. They convey the meaning better and their rhymed prose is in better meter. … By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽[4

In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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Reply #5 - April 05, 2014, 08:21 PM

yeah he smashed it for six ^^^^

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
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Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
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