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- Iblis
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Re: Traitors
Reply #30 - February 09, 2010, 10:09 AM

I think "gang" describes the ummah a lot better than cult. Cult seems to imply secrecy and sophistication. Muslims are not secretive or sophisticated about that shit.

Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 03:58 PM
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- J4m3z
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Re: Traitors
Reply #31 - February 09, 2010, 10:18 AM

Well the deobandis I hung out with (very un-Western) certainly had a secretive side to them.

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- J4m3z
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Re: Traitors
Reply #32 - February 09, 2010, 10:20 AM

Plus, don't you think Hizb-ut-Tahrir are a bit cultish? They come across as nice Western people saying they believe in democracy and share Western values, and saying most Muslims want a shariah and therefore they only want what most people want. Bullshit. They'd organize a coup if they could. They couldn't care less what number of Muslims want a shariah, they'd force it down their necks if they dared to resist.

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- Iblis
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Re: Traitors
Reply #33 - February 09, 2010, 10:46 AM

Sure, there are various sects and groups like that. But I was meaning Islam as a whole, as a religion. It seems to operate like the crips more than it does like Scientology. Bang bang.

Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 03:58 PM
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Re: Traitors
Reply #34 - February 09, 2010, 10:49 AM

Quote from: Iblis on February 09, 2010, 10:09 AM
I think "gang" describes the ummah a lot better than cult. Cult seems to imply secrecy and sophistication. Muslims are not secretive or sophisticated about that shit.

I would go for Mafia

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