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  • Hi everyone :D
     OP - August 24, 2011, 09:40 PM

    Hi everyone Smiley

    Warning: this will  pretty rambly and quite long, because I like to go on with myself a bit  Smiley

    I'm a 16 year old girl, I was raised as a Muslim, my Mum and my older brother are intensely religious, and everyone else in my family is borderline especially my Dad who doesn't even pray unless my mum nags at him, but they all still hold pretty islamic, backwards beliefs.

    For the past two years or so I've occasional doubts about Islam and religion in general, but until these last couple of months I just ignored these doubts and dismissed it as the devil trying to mislead me. However for these past few months I've been unable to get past my doubts especially because my and my brother debate various aspects of Islam so much, and he just blindly follows it, e.g. a while ago we were talking about the prophet's marriage to Aisha, and he said "It doesn't matter how old she was, because Allah ordered it, and who are we to question Allah?"

    So I've been trying to researching Islam, in an attempt to solidify my beliefs and find answers for things that were bothering me, but the more I searched, to further I was driven from Islam, I can't believe some of the things I've read about this religion I've been following my whole life! Its just so far from this peaceful idyllic image I had of Islam, all the pretty nasheeds, and cute books about Islam I read as a kid, it was all essentially propaganda. I discovered this hateful vindictive god, that WANTED to put us all into hell. I mean, according to the prophet most Muslims are going to hell right along with all the "kafirs". I discovered all the contradictions and mistakes in the Qur'an. This stunned me the most. My whole life I had been led to believe the Qur'an was infallible, but that turned out to be a pack of lies.  I hadn't even heard of most of the criticisms of Islam until now, and that disturbed me. Even these so called "miracles of the Qur'an" were all lies. All belief I had left in Islam was completely destroyed.

    So I am now an ex muslim. An apostate. An atheist.  It feels really weird saying this because somewhere inside me I'm still fear that I will go to hell for this, even though I know this is completely irrational, because I KNOW the Islamic idea of "God" doesn't exist.  Allah has too many human faults and characteristics to be an omniscient, benevolent, God.

    But I do have one religion related problem in my life still. My family. As long as I live here with them, which is for another 2 years at least, I can't be public about this. Even though I don't believe anymore, I'm still going to have to go through the motions, carry on wearing hijab, pretend to pray, fast etc. And I don't know how I'll be able to cope doing this for another two years. Especially with wearing the hijab. When I believed, I felt self conscious enough about it, but now I don't, it just pisses me off. I now have to wear a piece of cloth that allies me with beliefs I do not want any part in, but I've got no other choice.
    I'm just going to have to live like this for the next two years. It'll be funny looking back on it anyway, considering I'm starting a  Catholic sixth form next week, I'll be the Atheist pretending to be a Muslim at a Catholic school. What a a fucked up situation.

    Sorry for the big moan I had in the last paragraph, but I don't really have anyone to talk to about this honestly in real life, so I just needed somewhere to vent a little. Smiley

    Thanks for reading Cheesy
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #1 - August 24, 2011, 09:48 PM

    Atheist at 16?

    See how feel in 2 years time?

    Welcome:-)

    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #2 - August 24, 2011, 09:48 PM

    Hi Sam7890, and welcome to the forum! First of all, you deserve the customary parrot  parrot Please don't ask why...
    I sincerely hope that you will meet people here who can be of help and/or assistance. Don't be embarrassed by the rude posts here and there. Most users here are young adults, loaded with hormones and finally freed from an oppressing religion. Leaving Islam is not entering Sodom and Gomorra!

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #3 - August 24, 2011, 09:54 PM

    Hey Sam. :3
    Your situation is pretty much exactly like mine, 'cept I don't wear hijab. Possibly (depending on the results tomorrow mysmilie_977) right down to the Catholic sixth form and having to pretend to be Muslim if I go there. Jesus fuckin' Christ. That's... weird as hell.

    Anyway, hi, here's a welcome piggy for you. piggy <---Careful with him, he tends to be pretty controversial.
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #4 - August 24, 2011, 10:03 PM

    Shit, that is weird.

    IT MUST BE SIGN!

  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #5 - August 24, 2011, 10:06 PM

    Fuck that.
    ...
    BURN THE IMPOSTOR! *runs after you with a box of matches* signmuahaha
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #6 - August 24, 2011, 10:10 PM

    First day admitting to anyone that I've left Islam and the death threats have already started  Tongue
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #7 - August 24, 2011, 10:21 PM

    Welcome sam, you will find a whole load of ex muslims here in the same situation as you, all struggling to cope with playing a part for the years they need to before they become independent enough.

    We can't do anything about that, but we can offer support, debate, and loads of jokes to try to make your next 2yrs a little bit more manageable.

    Look forward to seeing you around the forum.   dance

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #8 - August 24, 2011, 10:25 PM

    Welcome my child!


    First day admitting to anyone that I've left Islam and the death threats have already started  Tongue


    What happened? You announced your apostacy already?

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #9 - August 24, 2011, 10:31 PM

    Welcome to the forum.  Smiley

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #10 - August 24, 2011, 10:31 PM

    hai hai sam
    I still wear the hijab and have to pretend to be muzzie as well so I feel your painnnn :(

    hope you enjoy your le stay bunny

    Started from the bottom, now I'm here
    Started from the bottom, now my whole extended family's here

    JOIN THE CHAT
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #11 - August 24, 2011, 10:34 PM

    What happened? You announced your apostacy already?

    I think she was talking about sunbul wanting to burn her alive before allah gets the chance to.

    Started from the bottom, now I'm here
    Started from the bottom, now my whole extended family's here

    JOIN THE CHAT
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #12 - August 24, 2011, 10:35 PM

    No, I was just joke.  Cheesy

    Fuck that.
    ...
    BURN THE IMPOSTOR! *runs after you with a box of matches* signmuahaha


    That's the "threat".  I've only posted it on here, and a pen pal knows, and that's about it. Smiley
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #13 - August 24, 2011, 10:45 PM

    16 is the new 19 on this forum.

    Hello btw, person.
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #14 - August 24, 2011, 10:56 PM

    welcome.

    I wish parents everywhere could remove their veil of religion and see their kids for whom they actually are.
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #15 - August 24, 2011, 11:01 PM

    a warm welcome, sam!  yeah, that initial bit of coming forward and saying
    it, either in your mind, out loud, or in type is a bit shocking.  but you will
    get comfortable more and more as time goes on.

    Please stay safe, and if it will be a serious problem to say anything to anyone,
    DONT!  lots of folks here in the same situation to give you support.

    so here's your welcome jinn ghost

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #16 - August 24, 2011, 11:04 PM

    Hello Sam7890 and welcome.  Smiley
    Enjoy your stay!
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #17 - August 24, 2011, 11:09 PM

    Welcome young grasshopper Smiley

  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #18 - August 25, 2011, 03:16 AM

    Hi Sam7890, welcome to the forums and have a rabbit!  bunny

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #19 - August 25, 2011, 06:30 AM

    Welcome Sam!

    By the way, guys, you know how the Egyptian members here have that caption, "CEMB Egyptian Mafia", or something? We totally need something like that for all the 16-year-olds here.

    Anyway, here's your welcome Jew! Jew

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #20 - August 25, 2011, 07:05 AM

    It amazes me when a young person has the intellect to actually research islam and see it for what it really is and not believe in it. Takes a lot of courage and sense!

    I remember the first moment I realised. I remember it so vividly- I actually didn't remember it at all until I started to think recently then it hit like lightning. I was 16- but I spent years trying to see some truth in islam, twisting it this way and that, finding meanings that would fit my belief (mainly that women are NOT inferior!), then I realised the futility of this- I came to abhor the hypocrisy of people who call themselves muslim but follow their own made up version but continue to support the religion despite having issues with so many topics or not even knowing about them at all!!! This sort of thing is raising generation after generation of men and women that are getting worse each time!

    I'm lucky that religion was never forced on me- fasting was expected but in my last few yrs at home I secretly didn't fast and in my last yr at home I just gave up and openly didn't fast. Keeping your apostacy secret is hard work, someone will say something and you'll grit your teeth until one day you explode in a giant trifle of crazy (like I did) then woodddlee away into the sunset never to be seen again (like I did) to nurse your wounds. I did 12 years, was so difficult lying to everyone and lying to myself even.

    Whatever you do make sure to lay the foundations to leave home as soon as you are able. At 18 most people go away to uni which gives a few years away to do your own thing. The worst thing is having to live at home and having to lie cos you can't afford to move out!

    Good luck!  bunny
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #21 - August 25, 2011, 09:18 AM

    Hi Sam, welcome!

    another lady left islam  dance

    hope you enjoy your stay and I think it would be wise not to advertise your apostasy so much. stay safe  far away hug

    I think a lot of us were brought here by google. Verily google guides whom it wills!

  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #22 - August 25, 2011, 10:46 AM

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    'm just going to have to live like this for the next two years. It'll be funny looking back on it anyway, considering I'm starting a  Catholic sixth form next week, I'll be the Atheist pretending to be a Muslim at a Catholic school. What a a fucked up situation


    Grin, quite a fucked up situation indeed.

    Welcome to the forum, im sure you will enjoy it here Smiley

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #23 - August 26, 2011, 03:45 AM

    welcome! and congratulations on achieving an open mind ?

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Hi everyone :D
     Reply #24 - February 01, 2012, 01:15 PM

    welcome sam

    wow... i didnt think other people went through or are going through the same things i did. (yes im new).

    its definitely hard to tell urself ur no longer muslim, but its a great step to finding urself rather than be dictated on what you believe. i left islam when i was 16 too and wore the hijab. i stopped wearing it when i moved to sixth form (even though it was the saem school). i was openly atheist to my friends but my family still have no idea. i know how hard it can be to keep up the lie (cos im still doing it, even at 21). but i think things get better. its good if you have the courage to move out though, i unfortuinately dont have the guts. i wont be allowed to move out til i get married unfortunately cos my family is strict in that sense.

    thanks for sharing and again welcome
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