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  • Dwarf Eats Planet!
     OP - July 05, 2009, 11:21 PM

    For several years, UCLA astronomers have studied GD 362, a peculiarly dirty white dwarf star 165 light-years away in the constellation Hercules. Now they are pretty sure why the atmosphere of this dense, hot but slowly cooling ghost of a once much larger star is so polluted. It ate a planet.

    “We probably have a destroyed world here,” says Michael Jura, coleader of the UCLA team. Apparently a planet with the mass of Mars — a billion trillion metric tons or so of rock, iron, dissociated water and other ingredients — was dismembered and atomized, its remains now bobbing in the thin but dense, 10,000 kelvins atmosphere that GD 362’s powerful gravity holds close around itself.

    Like a specimen on the ultimate autopsy table, the supposed planet has its insides spread wide for inspection. It would thus appear to provide science its first look at the composition of an alien, rocky and roughly Earthlike planet in an exosolar planetary system. In fact, the material marring GD 362 appears to closely match what you would get by grinding up Earth, Mars or Venus, the UCLA team and collaborators report in a paper to appear in The Astrophysical Journal.

    The report provides some of the first hard data for a nascent field of science — let’s call it terrestrial exoplanetology —inching ever closer to the day when Earthlike planets might finally be visible directly to ever more powerful telescopes planned for construction on Earth and for orbit. Viewing white dwarfs with such instruments may tell astronomers whether rocky planets orbiting other stars all resemble Earth or come in diverse varieties.

    “We have a unique tool for studying extrasolar planetary composition,” Jura says. “If we are clever enough, we might even know something about their structure, not just their bulk ingredients.”

    The UCLA team has an additional dozen or so polluted white dwarfs under study. So far, all look as though they contain similar stuff.

    http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/45184/title/The_Star_That_Ate_a_Mars

    Awesome.

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #1 - July 05, 2009, 11:37 PM

    I find things like this scary.  It brings ones of the most unsettling parts of my worldview to the fore.  And that is that there is no overseeing being keeping nature in check.  There is no reason that a white dwarf star, or something like it, like a giant rock or volcano could consume the earth in a heartbeat.  Thats the end of that.  And in the scheme of the universe, it would be a pretty unremarkable event.

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #2 - July 05, 2009, 11:46 PM

    Yep.  If there are ETs out there with telescopes, they would probly never even notice the absence of one obscure blue dot in the backwaters of the Milky Way galaxy. 

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #3 - July 06, 2009, 12:06 AM

    I find things like this scary.  It brings ones of the most unsettling parts of my worldview to the fore.  And that is that there is no overseeing being keeping nature in check.  There is no reason that a white dwarf star, or something like it, like a giant rock or volcano could consume the earth in a heartbeat.  Thats the end of that.  And in the scheme of the universe, it would be a pretty unremarkable event.

    That's why we humans must evolve through posthuman engineering.

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #4 - July 06, 2009, 02:01 AM

    I wish Carl Sagan was still alive.

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #5 - July 06, 2009, 08:02 AM

    I just love dirty dwarfs.  dance  parrot

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #6 - July 06, 2009, 08:39 AM

    That's why we humans must evolve through posthuman engineering.

    So how does that stop a dwarf eating us for breakfast?

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #7 - July 06, 2009, 10:28 AM

    I wish Carl Sagan was still alive.

    Me too, and if anyone hasn't watched this before, I recommend they watch it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJwq3aPLMk&feature=fvw

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #8 - July 06, 2009, 11:14 AM

    His Wiki article is quite interesting - here are snippets:

    Isaac Asimov described Sagan as one of only two people he ever met who were smarter than Asimov himself. The other was the computer scientist and artificial intelligence expert Marvin Minsky.

    Sagan wrote how marijuana use had helped to inspire some of his works and enhance sensual and intellectual experiences.

    The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard, who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying ... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity."[29]

    Sagan was, however, not an atheist, expressing that, "An atheist has to know a lot more than I know." In reply to a direct question in 1996 about his religious beliefs, Sagan gave a direct answer: "I'm agnostic." Sagan argued that the idea of a Creator of the Universe was difficult to prove or disprove and that the only conceivable scientific discovery that could challenge it would be an infinitely old universe.[32]

    "We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces"  RIP Carl Sagan

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #9 - July 06, 2009, 03:02 PM

    So how does that stop a dwarf eating us for breakfast?

    If we can spread to other planets and stars, chances are that we don't die out that easily.

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #10 - August 05, 2009, 03:46 AM

    I have always had an immense fascination with space and the universe since I were a youngling, and used to read books on planets and stars since around age 10. I wanted to be an astronomer, untill I eventually realised that I were hopeless at maths and couldnt do physics calculations :(.

    I agree with what that scientist said that we do not know if there is a creator or not, but we can definately know that if there is a creator, Christianity and Islam describe him far too wrong to be real by their standards.

    Anyway, I would hope that our sun goes boom and ends this silly little planet. What use are humans to this universe? Oh, well, we might one day prove to be useful as a food source to some other ET life. Or burnable for fuel.     

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

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  • Re: Dwarf Eats Planet!
     Reply #11 - August 09, 2009, 06:21 PM

    Me too, and if anyone hasn't watched this before, I recommend they watch it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJwq3aPLMk&feature=fvw


    I have always enjoyed Carl Sagans books. The beginning of this video is far more awe inspiring than any creation myth!
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