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  • Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     OP - September 10, 2009, 02:15 PM
    From Twitter: www.twitter.com/ExMuslims

    CAIRO, Sept. 9 (UPI) -- An Egyptian clampdown on religiously prohibited eating and drinking during Ramadan is producing human rights abuses, advocates say.

    They claim moves by the country's Interior Ministry to arrest those who eat and drink in public during daytime fasting hours of the Islamic holy month are unconstitutional. The group Copts for Egypt has instituted a campaign called "Save the Homeland" to oppose the arrests, al-Arabiya reported Wednesday.

    "We issued a statement to the minister of interior calling upon him to investigate the arrests and put those in charge on trial," the group's spokesman, Samuel al-Ashay, told the newspaper. "They violated personal freedom and will end up creating another Taliban in Egypt."

    Another human rights group, the Arab Network for Human Rights Information, also blasted the Ramadan arrests. Its leader, Gamal Eid, told al-Arabiya, "There is no law that prohibits eating or drinking during the day in Ramadan. Every citizen has the right to eat and drink in Ramadan without being harassed. This means that the government is implicitly endorsing turning Egypt into a religious state."

    Eid blamed the crackdown on the religious fanaticism of police officers, claiming the Interior Ministry of being complicit for not moving to stop them.
    ( http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/09/Ramadan-arrests-called-unconstitutional/UPI-67371252513027/ )
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #1 - September 10, 2009, 02:23 PM
    I've always thought that Egypt is a "moderate" Islamic country....?
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #2 - September 10, 2009, 02:27 PM
    Who told you that?

    Didn't the government once stop voters from going to poll stations because it was going to be a landslide vote for Muslim brotherhood?

    The society is very very religious, and gradually the government is tending towards the society to please the Mullahs, Azhar and the poor.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #3 - September 10, 2009, 02:35 PM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on September 10, 2009, 02:27 PM
    Who told you that?

    Didn't the government once stop voters from going to poll stations because it was going to be a landslide vote for Muslim brotherhood?

    The society is very very religious, and gradually the government is tending towards the society to please the Mullahs, Azhar and the poor.

    =O Didn't know that...
    There are a lot of Christians in Egypt... I knew Muslims there sometimes had problems with churches, but I thought the government was more moderate and tolerant...
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #4 - September 10, 2009, 02:41 PM
    When you're dealing with a fascist government (like Egypt's) there is no such thing as a moderate and tolerant government. The high ups in the government are themselves secular, but they use religion as a pawn however they want to. If the mood of the country is religious and they want to keep them quiet they'll exploit the mood by making a few public religious moves (like this one) so that they gain support and the peasants stay quiet.

    If the people were secular though we wouldn't see such actions. But Egyptian society is deeply religious on the whole.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #5 - September 10, 2009, 02:41 PM
    What about Muslims who are exempt from fasting?
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #6 - September 10, 2009, 02:44 PM
    It's a public ban

    Not a complete ban. So I suppose they will tell them to eat at home.

    It doesn't matter really, before this law unless you lived in a Christian area or you were a child if you ate something in public you wouldn't be tolerated for very long.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #7 - September 10, 2009, 02:48 PM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on September 10, 2009, 02:44 PM
    It's a public ban

    Not a complete ban. So I suppose they will tell them to eat at home.

    It doesn't matter really, before this law unless you lived in a Christian area or you were a child if you ate something in public you wouldn't be tolerated for very long.

    True xD
    Going to jail might even save your life... xD
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #8 - September 10, 2009, 03:28 PM
    Are kuffar sites blocked in Egypt? What percentage of people uses Internet?

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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #9 - September 10, 2009, 03:58 PM
    To me it appears that this new 'law' is just another tool for the Egyptian gov't and corrupt police to use against non-Muslims in Egypt.

    It's sad how so many 'religious' governments, or in the case of Egypt, a government which hides behind religion feel they must treat their constituents like children with laws such as these.  Telling people how to live their lives, what kind of lifestyle they must live, etc.
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #10 - September 10, 2009, 04:40 PM
    Baal is not going to be a happy bunny when he reads this article furious
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #11 - September 10, 2009, 04:55 PM
    It's a bit sad about Egypt; sideling communities representing its ancient heritage.

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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #12 - September 10, 2009, 06:14 PM
    I never quite understood why everything Muslims deem as Holy and sacred seem to be a Punishment for every other sane being! Im Serious... Not eating, Force women to wear this garb, grow long beards in the desert, no music, no sex, no alcohol, pray 5 times a day, a list of how to hate people who are not muslims properly... its just not funny anymore...
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  • Re: Egypt: Eat or Drink during the Ramadan and you'll get arrested!
     Reply #13 - September 10, 2009, 08:39 PM
    Quote from: brainyape on September 10, 2009, 03:28 PM
    Are kuffar sites blocked in Egypt? What percentage of people uses Internet?




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