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 Topic: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?

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  • Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     OP - September 16, 2009, 04:00 PM
    This is a Sahih hadith from Sahih Bukhari, Muhammad forbade Ali from remarrying while married to his daughter Fatima, coz she's "part of his body and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me."


    Volume 7, Book 62, Number 157:
    Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama:

    I heard Allah's Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, "Banu Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don't give permission, and will not give permission unless 'Ali bin Abi Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me."

    If he felt polygamy was painful to women, why allow it for other girls? Is it as they're " not part of his body and so he doesn't hate what they hates to see, and what hurts them,doesn't hurts him?"

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #1 - September 16, 2009, 04:05 PM
    Rashna, what do your friends do when they get home from school? You know what 'friends' are? They're the people that kids go play with, it's an old tradition, unlike using every spare moment available to condemn a religion. It's not normal or healthy for you - as we can see from your increasingly batty behaviour. If you've never been told that before- you have now, now come on, get your jacket on and go out and have a look around. Afro
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #2 - September 16, 2009, 04:07 PM
    @Jack,

    People of all ages need to have friends outside the internet!How do YOUR friends tolerate your batty behavior? Tongue
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #3 - September 16, 2009, 04:08 PM
    Brilliant come back,  you've floored me there.
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #4 - September 16, 2009, 05:45 PM
    Quote from: Rashna on September 16, 2009, 04:07 PM
    @Jack,

    People of all ages need to have friends outside the internet!How do YOUR friends tolerate your batty behavior? Tongue

    Hey Rashna, i put twirps on the ignore,  it works. As for jack, he is a sh1t disturber, the kind that people refuse to rent their apartments to, allow him into their hotels and invite to their parties because he might make an ass of himself and others, unless of course he is being invited by asses as well.

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #5 - September 16, 2009, 05:46 PM
    And Jack, wtf does having friends have anything to do with Rashna's learning/educating about Muhammad's absolute form of morality and double standards.
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #6 - September 16, 2009, 06:05 PM
    I didn't know about this Hadith before.  Roll Eyes
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #7 - September 16, 2009, 06:38 PM
    Quote from: Baal on September 16, 2009, 05:46 PM
    And Jack, wtf does having friends have anything to do with Rashna's learning/educating about Muhammad's absolute form of morality and double standards.





    Nothing, she's here trolling, so is being treated as such.
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #8 - September 16, 2009, 06:50 PM
    Double standards for his favourite daughter  Cheesy
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #9 - September 16, 2009, 07:48 PM
    Rashna,

    You're clearly a bit of a psycho (and that's a professional opinion) but thanks for pointing out this hadith - it was one that I hadn't previously come across and a great example of some glaring double standards.
    Look not above, there is no answer there;
    Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer;
    Near is as near to God as any Far,
    And Here is just the same deceit as There.

    - Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #10 - September 16, 2009, 08:40 PM
    Dr.Diavolo, you are stating 'professional opinion' is this a diagnosis you can substantiate and prove, or perhaps sued about if you can not prove?
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #11 - September 17, 2009, 12:49 AM
    No Baal, it's an opinion on an internet forum.  Wink  Good comeback from Rashna though. I have to give her points for that one.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #12 - September 17, 2009, 07:59 AM
    Quote from: Baal on September 16, 2009, 05:45 PM
    Hey Rashna, i put twirps on the ignore,...blah blah




    Baal, you wanna go follow Rashna off this forum, fucking fine, really fucking fine. Do it. I'm not I'm my own when I say a lot of people will be happy to see the back of your creepy shadow. In fact, really you're the last defence of the bigots here, now that your chums have fucked off.

    You're gonna get a verbal kicking next time you shit stir, be prepared - or keep well away fro me, and that includes silly comments like your last post...and before you trot out the pedant stuff....not just this post I'm talking about. No surprise at all that you are so happy to see this the likes of Rashna back, must've been getting lonely with no, erm, 'dissonance'  Cheesy

    Do not reply, thank you.

    'Strolling in the non- Islamic city of Ipswich....Twirp...'  Cheesy

    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #13 - September 17, 2009, 09:49 AM
    Quote from: Baal on September 16, 2009, 08:40 PM
    Dr.Diavolo, you are stating 'professional opinion' is this a diagnosis you can substantiate and prove, or perhaps sued about if you can not prove?



    Yes, Baal. I'm actually a world expert in the diagnosis and treatment of psychosis in pretend 14 year old female Zoroastrian bigots. It's quite a specialist area. I'm pretty sure no other doctor has my level of experience in this particular field.
    Look not above, there is no answer there;
    Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer;
    Near is as near to God as any Far,
    And Here is just the same deceit as There.

    - Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #14 - September 17, 2009, 04:09 PM
    Quote from: Jack Torrance on September 17, 2009, 07:59 AM

    Baal, you wanna go follow Rashna off this forum, fucking fine, really fucking fine. Do it. I'm not I'm my own when I say a lot of people will be happy to see the back of your creepy shadow. In fact, really you're the last defence of the bigots here, now that your chums have fucked off.

    You're gonna get a verbal kicking next time you shit stir, be prepared - or keep well away fro me, and that includes silly comments like your last post...and before you trot out the pedant stuff....not just this post I'm talking about. No surprise at all that you are so happy to see this the likes of Rashna back, must've been getting lonely with no, erm, 'dissonance'  Cheesy

    Do not reply, thank you.

    'Strolling in the non- Islamic city of Ipswich....Twirp...'  Cheesy


    Jack, that's enough. Instead of obsessively picking fights with Rashna and Baal, try putting the people you don't like on Ignore. That function is there for a reason. Personal attacks like the one quoted here are not acceptable. Consider this your first smite.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #15 - September 17, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Sure,by the way did you read his post that I was replying to?  I want nothing to do with the likes of him and would appreciate it if he didn't provoke responses so that such unfortunate incidents such as this needn't occur - but he knows that, thankyou. Afro
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #16 - September 17, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Actually, Jack, you just inspired me to stay. Thanks.

    "Bigots" like me are needed to put folks like you in your place.  yes
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #17 - September 17, 2009, 04:20 PM
    I understand Jack. It's a big forum and some people just won't get along. That's why we have the ignore feature. It really works, I have used it on certain kopes and Armoured Baguettes myself many a times. I appreciate your understanding.  Smiley
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #18 - September 17, 2009, 11:02 PM
    Quote from: Jack Torrance on September 17, 2009, 07:59 AM

    Baal, you wanna go follow Rashna off this forum, fucking fine, really fucking fine. Do it. I'm not I'm my own when I say a lot of people will be happy to see the back of your creepy shadow.

    You say 'a lot'?, I am not sure if even a couple of people agree with you, I certainly dont, so please do not include others in your vitriolic and hurtful comments unless of course you can substantiate them. 

    I more than welcome Baals contribution here, and Zaephon again was a popular poster here, as you are aware.
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  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #19 - September 18, 2009, 07:49 AM
    Quote from: Rashna on September 17, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Actually, Jack, you just inspired me to stay. Thanks.

    "Bigots" like me are needed to put folks like you in your place.  yes



    One way of looking at it. Didn't Hitler 'thank' the Jews for a very similar reason?
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygam
     Reply #20 - September 18, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Quote from: allat on September 17, 2009, 04:20 PM
    I understand Jack. It's a big forum and some people just won't get along. That's why we have the ignore feature. It really works, I have used it on certain kopes and Armoured Baguettes myself many a times. I appreciate your understanding.  Smiley



    Cool Afro
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Why did Muhammad oppose bigamy for Ali though he,his followers were polygamous?
     Reply #21 - September 18, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Godwin's Law: instant internet fail.   Tongue
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