What are the main difference between Shiasm and Sunnism?

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What are the main difference between Shiasm and Sunnism?
OP - April 04, 2010, 09:36 PM

Just curious to know
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Re: What are the main difference between Shiasm and Sunnism?
Reply #1 - April 04, 2010, 09:52 PM

Mainly their differences on leadership. Shia believe that only Ali was the rightly guided caliph, while sunnis believe there were 4. Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali. Plus, Shia Islam is more superstitious and they fucking obsess over Ali, sometimes even more than Muhammad.

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Reply #2 - April 04, 2010, 10:42 PM

So are Shia the ones that allow 'temporary marriage' or do both sects of Islam permit it? I heard they did, maybe Sunni Islam does too.

Just wonderin'
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Reply #3 - April 04, 2010, 10:50 PM

Quote from: Zebedee on April 04, 2010, 10:42 PM
So are Shia the ones that allow 'temporary marriage' or do both sects of Islam permit it? I heard they did, maybe Sunni Islam does too.

Just wonderin'

that temporary marriage is called "mutah" which Shiites allow
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Reply #4 - April 04, 2010, 11:17 PM

Quote from: _truth_ on April 04, 2010, 10:50 PM
that temporary marriage is called "mutah" which Shiites allow

You know, it's sanctioned in the Qur'an in 4:24;

"and it is also said that this means: so that you should seek with your money marrying women for an agreed period of time (zawaj al-mut'ah) but the lawfulness of this practice was later abrogated" -- Tanwir al-Miqbas

The thing is, I don't think a Qur'anic verse can be abrogated unless its by another verse, and I don't think there's another verse in the Qur'an that forbids temporary marriage.
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Reply #5 - April 05, 2010, 01:55 AM

i heard it was banned after the death of the prophet ??

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Reply #6 - April 05, 2010, 03:18 AM

It was banned by the Caliph Omar later on
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Re: What are the main difference between Shiasm and Sunnism?
Reply #7 - April 05, 2010, 04:29 AM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on April 04, 2010, 09:52 PM
Mainly their differences on leadership. Shia believe that only Ali was the rightly guided caliph, while sunnis believe there were 4. Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali. Plus, Shia Islam is more superstitious and they fucking obsess over Ali, sometimes even more than Muhammad.

But there is the benefit that only the imam can be leader of the Muslims both religiously and politically (hence you hear Shia wanting the Madhi to return) - which opens the door to a secular democracy (which Iran almost had 50 years ago before the west fucked it up) - compared to Sunni which seem to obsess incessantly over restoring the caliphate.

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Reply #8 - April 05, 2010, 04:41 AM

Quote from: Zebedee on April 04, 2010, 10:42 PM
So are Shia the ones that allow 'temporary marriage' or do both sects of Islam permit it? I heard they did, maybe Sunni Islam does too.

Just wonderin'

Oh of course, the women's rights advocates known as the ulamaa of sunni Islam have instituted this liberating practice - only by a different name. It is called misyar, it has always been around and it is currently enjoying a resurgence in the Islamic world and in the west, and Muslim women everywhere are praising allah for all the dignity and rights they are getting from it.

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Re: What are the main difference between Shiasm and Sunnism?
Reply #9 - April 05, 2010, 09:32 AM

Quote from: _truth_ on April 04, 2010, 10:50 PM
that temporary marriage is called "mutah" which Shiites allow

Called misyar in Sunnism - and it is halal in some forms of sunnism.
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Reply #10 - April 05, 2010, 10:30 AM

Yeah. So it was banned by one of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs and so is therefore considered legally impermissible.

But like I stated, their authority is not higher than the Qur'an's and so if it's sanctioned in the Qur'an then there are definitely going to be Muslims who still consider it legal.
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Re: What are the main difference between Shiasm and Sunnism?
Reply #11 - April 05, 2010, 10:59 AM

When the split originally happened it was purely a political difference - over leadership - there was at that time no doctrinal differences at all. After time the doctrinal differences evolved amongst both Sunni & Shi'a.
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