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 Topic: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology

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  • Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     OP - April 05, 2010, 04:53 PM
    I hope the title isn't too cryptic. My basic idea is that it is not enough to simply leave a religion and harp on about it's evils for the rest of your life. Graduate toward understanding religion and you will have truly come full circle.

    Here is a small meal:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB3S__GHWgo

    Trolls don't waste your time, I'll see you beasties in the shoutbox.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #1 - April 05, 2010, 05:10 PM
    That's fine but a mythology has to recognised as such - at the moment Islam is not.

    Perhaps you might like to try to understand that we are here not to attack a mythological view of Islam but the view that it is the literal word of a real God. In which case you should be supporting us as we are doing a very necessary job that will allow those who wish, to see it as simply a mythology, be free to do so without the billions of idiots who take it literally causing problems.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #2 - April 05, 2010, 05:14 PM
    Why are you promoting this concept here? We ex-muslims already agree Islam is mythology. Your time is better served over at an Islamic forums than preaching to the choir.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #3 - April 05, 2010, 05:16 PM
    I believe that the way you guys handle religion is a disservice.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #4 - April 05, 2010, 05:17 PM
    Quote from: IslamMythology on April 05, 2010, 05:16 PM
    I believe that the way you guys handle religion is a disservice.


    Why?
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #5 - April 05, 2010, 05:18 PM
    Right, because ex-muslims are the most pressing matter facing Muslims and Islam. Mmhmm. Because Muslims disrespecting and negating Islam is the biggest issue of the ummah. Right.

    *slow clap*
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #6 - April 05, 2010, 05:21 PM
    Trolling Muslims and misrepresenting Islam isn't a service, it's a pastime.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #7 - April 05, 2010, 05:24 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on April 05, 2010, 05:14 PM
    Why are you promoting this concept here? We ex-muslims already agree Islam is mythology. Your time is better served over at an Islamic forums than preaching to the choir.

    +1
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #8 - April 05, 2010, 05:25 PM
    Quote from: IslamMythology on April 05, 2010, 05:21 PM
    Trolling Muslims and misrepresenting Islam isn't a service, it's a pastime.


    Show me where we troll Muslims or misrepresent Islam.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #9 - April 05, 2010, 05:28 PM
    Perhaps it's a past time. But you still haven't addressed why us engaging in this past time is of any importance in the larger scheme of things? Shouldn't you be promoting your ideas among actual muslims, you know.. the other 1.5 or so billion people out there who DO NOT consider Islam to be mythology?

    Really, lets face it you're an apostate in denial and are having serious emotional issues related to letting go of your precious Islam. Ex-muslims represent something inside of yourself that you hate and you are lashing out here at us on these forums for some sort of cathartic purpose. You are resorting to this Islam "Mythology" crap as a sort of last ditch attempt to hold on to your religion, a religion that you know is a pack of lies.

    You are a deeply emotionally conflicted person and you need help. I say that with no humour or intent to mock. Get help.



    PS

    Are you King Tut?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #10 - April 05, 2010, 05:38 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on April 05, 2010, 05:28 PM
    Are you King Tut?


    I second that question IslamMythology - are you King Tut?
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #11 - April 05, 2010, 05:39 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on April 05, 2010, 05:28 PM
    Perhaps it's a past time. But you still haven't addressed why us engaging in this past time is of any importance in the larger scheme of things? Shouldn't you be promoting your ideas among actual muslims, you know.. the other 1.5 or so billion people out there who DO NOT consider Islam to be mythology?

    Really, lets face it you're an apostate in denial and are having serious emotional issues related to letting go of your precious Islam. Ex-muslims represent something inside of yourself that you hate and you are lashing out here at us on these forums for some sort of cathartic purpose. You are resorting to this Islam "Mythology" crap as a sort of last ditch attempt to hold on to your religion, a religion that you know is a pack of lies.

    You are a deeply emotionally conflicted person and you need help. I say that with no humour or intent to mock. Get help.



    PS

    Are you King Tut?


    ty Iblis. Hassan, case in point.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #12 - April 05, 2010, 05:43 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on April 05, 2010, 05:28 PM
    PS

    Are you King Tut?


    Quite likely, since:

    Quote from: ShoutBox
    Iraqi Atheist
     Today at 11:01 AM
    What happened to King Tut

    Kenan
     Today at 11:10 AM
    self ban for 3 months or I think

    IslamMythology
     Today at 11:19 AM
    Tut wants the ban lifted. He says he has asked the admins to do so.

    Kenan
     Today at 11:22 AM
    source?

    @li
     Today at 11:25 AM
    IM said he doesn't even know who tut is! You're full of lies

    IslamMythology
     Today at 11:29 AM
    I met Tut today and spoke to him for the first time. @li go fuck ur mother u
    scrawny fuck


    P.S that last insult is pretty similar to the way tut cussed me out previously which seems to have been deleted by admins.

    Edit: P.S I request that his swearing in this quote please do not be removed.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #13 - April 05, 2010, 05:49 PM
    Quote from: IslamMythology on April 05, 2010, 05:39 PM
    ty Iblis. Hassan, case in point.


    I know, the truth hurts.

    But still, you dodge the real question. Why preach to ex-muslims about this crap? Why not go to an actual Muslim forums? By simple reduction all that's really left to explain your strange and aggressive behavior is really that you have severe emotional issues.

    If you can provide a proper alternate reason as to your motivations towards preaching your nonsense here vs the vast majority of real muslims I'm sure we'd love to hear it out. Smiley

    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #14 - April 05, 2010, 06:07 PM
    Imo what you are doing here is creating a new mythology which “translates” and transforms Islam into something more ethical.
    My issues with your approach  are:

    1. it’s unnecessary – there is nothing to be gained from it that couldn't be obtained from much better sources
    2. why don’t you go all the way as there already is a mythology which is purely in the service of Ideas and carries no excess baggage – the mythology of Reason

    Furthermore imo a much better approach towards understanding religion is thorough philosophy and psychoanalysis.

    I did watch the video btw. Uninspiring.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #15 - April 05, 2010, 06:21 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on April 05, 2010, 05:10 PM
    That's fine but a mythology has to recognised as such - at the moment Islam is not.


    All religious belief functions as mythology, whether or not it's explicit recognition as such is heretical.
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #16 - April 05, 2010, 06:22 PM
    Quote from: IslamMythology on April 05, 2010, 05:39 PM
    ty Iblis. Hassan, case in point.

    Considering that you were handing out psychological assessment of others left, right and centre you really shouldn't be too surprised when you receive one.

    Besides Iblis is a pimp psychotherapist IRL.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #17 - April 05, 2010, 06:23 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on April 05, 2010, 06:21 PM
    All religious belief functions as mythology, whether or not it's explicit recognition as such is heretical.

    True that.
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #18 - April 05, 2010, 06:29 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on April 05, 2010, 06:07 PM
    Furthermore imo a much better approach towards understanding religion is thorough philosophy and psychoanalysis.


    I'd add to that social science, anthropology and other related disciplines.

    The video seems to be new age therapeutic stuff, with little substantive value.
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #19 - April 05, 2010, 06:58 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AG4rlGkCRU

    Parallels with Muhammad?
  • Re: Moving Beyond Simple Religious Negation: Understanding Mythology
     Reply #20 - April 05, 2010, 07:26 PM
    The concept you are referring to is so universal and open in its interpretation that it could be applied to anything.

    If you want to understand what The Matrix is all about read this book first:




    Also carefully watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFqfbrsZbw

    “I want a third pill! I want a pill that would enable me not to perceive the reality behind the illusion, but the reality in illusion itself.”
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