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Under that burqua, lipstick and high heels
OP - May 16, 2010, 11:09 PM

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Under that burqa, lipstick and high heels
Posted: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:13 PM
Filed Under: Kabul, Afghanistan

By Kiko Itasaka, NBC News Producer

KABUL, Afghanistan – After a hard day at work, my neighbor usually changes out of her uniform, applies her lipstick, a dab of mascara, and a dusting of eye shadow.

Then she puts on her powder blue burqa and commutes home.

When asked why she bothers primping when she is about to completely cover up, she giggled. "I wear the makeup for myself. It makes me feel good."

Fatima (who asked that her real name not be used due to security concerns) said she wears the burqa outside because it makes her feel more secure. "No one will notice me if I’m covered up."

More at link: http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/14/2315258.aspx

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Reply #1 - May 16, 2010, 11:20 PM

Like has been said before here time and time again, you just cannot repress the most basic desire of the human soul to take pride and individuality in yourself, to pay attention to your own appearence, to connect your inner spirit and your outward expression of beauty and fashion. Its hard wired into us, and this lady's spirit of lipstick resistance is the soul in flight against the oppressions of primitive, anti-human religion.

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Reply #2 - May 17, 2010, 12:04 AM

That should be post of the month, Billy!

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Reply #3 - May 17, 2010, 12:10 AM

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"That was a great time for business," says Abdullah Aziz, who runs a burqa stall in central Kabul. His best sales were during the Taliban years; since their fall from power in 2001, sales have dropped by as much as 50 percent.

But with the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism and Taliban influence, business is picking up, according to Aziz, who cannot comprehend European attempts to ban the burqa.

"Every country has Muslims, and they should not be penalized for this. It should be up to the individual to choose," he said. While he accepts that some women might choose to wear just a head scarf, he believes the burqa is the most appropriate form of dress for Afghan women.

What a dick! Just because it was good for his business he wants to imprison all women under the burqa whether they agree with it or not.

Typical male Muslim attitude.

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Reply #4 - May 17, 2010, 12:13 AM

I wish that were only a male Muslim attitude. Greed leads people to accept all kinds of immoral things. More than enough examples throughout the world, throughout history. It certainly pre-dates Islam, and will likely outlive it as well.

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Reply #5 - May 17, 2010, 12:15 AM

So true, guess that's why greed is one of the seven deadly sins.

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Reply #6 - May 17, 2010, 12:19 AM

Yup. I'd agree with Gordon Gekko's assessment of "greed is good" were it not for the fact that greed so often leads to horrific immorality and harm.

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Reply #7 - May 17, 2010, 12:39 AM

Quote from: Nour on May 17, 2010, 12:10 AM
"Every country has Muslims, and they should not be penalized for this. It should be up to the individual to choose," he said.

I always hate it when Muslims of a conservative persuasion suddenly start invoking individual rights and individual choice in the context of things like burqa. Why don't they place the same emphasis on individual rights and individual choice for the women who don't want to wear them? Of course they'll say they do choose to, but we all know the reality in societies like this. To pretend that there is no coercive pressures that snuff out the real choices of women to wear burqa or other dress restrictions is totally disingenuous - a ruder person would just say they are outright liars. So much fuggin hypocrisy it makes me want to strangle my toothpaste tube.

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Reply #8 - May 17, 2010, 12:41 AM

Quote from: Nour on May 17, 2010, 12:04 AM
That should be post of the month, Billy!

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Reply #9 - May 17, 2010, 01:21 AM

Quote from: billy on May 17, 2010, 12:39 AM
I always hate it when Muslims of a conservative persuasion suddenly start invoking individual rights and individual choice in the context of things like burqa. Why don't they place the same emphasis on individual rights and individual choice for the women who don't want to wear them? Of course they'll say they do choose to, but we all know the reality in societies like this. To pretend that there is no coercive pressures that snuff out the real choices of women to wear burqa or other dress restrictions is totally disingenuous - a ruder person would just say they are outright liars. So much fuggin hypocrisy it makes me want to strangle my toothpaste tube.

Don't do that brother, you are better than that. Remember MLK and Ghandi, restraint is the key to peace and happiness. Leave that toothpaste tube unmangled.
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Reply #10 - May 17, 2010, 06:40 AM

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Don't do that brother, you are better than that. Remember MLK and Ghandi, restraint is the key to peace and happiness. Leave that toothpaste tube unmangled.

There is a difference between restraint and exposing hypocricy. MLK exposed hypocricy by showing blacks being punished for doing the exact same things as whites and instead of fighting back they held their head up high. He didn't pull any punches when it came to asserting what he believed were his rights, namely equality.

Ghandi exposed the ludicrisness of British laws by walking to the ocean and "making" salt to expose the stupidity of the british domestic industrial policy.

The very next question is would you defend someone who chose to wear the burka? Would you defend someone who chose to wear the hijab or no head covering at all? If he doesn't answer affermative to both, then he is a hypocrite and should be called one. The problem with reporters is that they think they are just there to passivly report the news, ask a question, get an answer, ok wrap it up. They don't flesh out opinions, ideas, or the general "mood" of the people.

I mean reporters in the South simply asked why should there be segregation. Segregationists would reply something about each state getting to choose their policy blah blah blah. The reporter should have asked ( and usually didn't) how would the person feel if a state segregated white people into one specific side of town etc. Then you expose what the true opinion is, not whatever they want to couch their opinion in to make it sound pleasing to the audience.

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #11 - May 17, 2010, 06:15 PM

Is segregationism now a dead ideology deusvult? or does it still have significant support?
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