@ darkEyed
Excuse me? Misinformation on Saudi Arabia? Women can drive there?
No. but it's not an "atrocity" and everyone knows that bit of info. No insider's view needed.
Women can speak out freely there?
Ha! Men cannot speak out freely!
Can women honestly go to authorities on their own to report rape/abuse of any sort whether physical, sexual, etc.?
Of course, they can! And except for rape, authorities would only ignore her complaint. If raped, they torture the rapist until he confesses! I can't even count how many times they announced on TV and in Newspapers, killing rapists.
I'm not trying to manipulate anyone here. Women suffer severely there.
True, but it depends on the family. They suffer because the authorities keep it up to the family.
And I'm sorry but you appear as a Saudi apologist. As if fear of our families IS NOT enough! You know how much authorities has censored human rights activists there, especially females hence why they move out of Saudi and go to place like the US, Canada, Europe, etc.
Human rights? Of course the government abuses everybody's human rights! Nothing new here..
@ Iraqi
I expected you to dodge the question. I asked you about YOUR personal opinion.
I actually did answer your question... the answer again is NO. Why? because Saudis don't view those with non-Saudi fathers as Saudis.. it's both official and cultural. Is she American? Yes. Why? Because Americans view those who are born in the US as 100% American. It's both official and cultural.
Yeah that's very smelly bullshit Debunker. Basically you're saying a person has nothing to do with his/her country of maternal ancestry.
No. I said I don't believe even her mother is Saudi.. I cannot prove it, but that's what I think.
Your comment is offensive. If a person is born to a Saudi parent and an Emirati parent then s/he is half and half. If your patriarchal mindset blinds to the fact then it's your problem and the fact is still a fact.
I like you generally but with these comments you come off as an arrogant twat.
Again, Iraqi, see above..
And please spare me the BS about women's situation in Saudi. When I was studying in Egypt my girlfriend was Saudi and she HATES living there.
So what? ALL Saudis hate living there, yet they stay there, because all of us are a bunch of whiny brats!
She said she would do a master's in Egypt just so that she can stay away from the country a little longer.
That's a major reason why I did my PhD. Yet, I'm going back... because life is easy there... dull and boring... but easy.
They can't drive FFS. They can't fucking drive.
But, the
vast majority of them have their own personal drivers who take them every fucking where, they want.
They can't leave the country without a Mahram.
They can but their Mahram must agree.
Men can do all they want, study abroad and fuck Iraqi, Egyptian, Lebanese, and Moroccan prostitutes but women can't drive !!!
And women now are on schoalrships to study abroad! So what? As for fucking prostitutes, what does that have to do with anything.
And you tell me she's misinformed, fuck me senseless.
Actually, no... I wanted to say she was flat out lying when she said Saudi women are punished for being raped... but I thought that wouldn't be too nice to say... so I used "mis-informed".
Topic: I am a FRESH ex Muslim ;)