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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #60 - May 31, 2010, 10:27 PM

    Phew - Turkey, you still get respect  Afro

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #61 - May 31, 2010, 10:28 PM

    The video made me see it from a different perspective. Why beat him with metal poles?

    Muslim rage is not new thing for those who lived in Islam and to those who read history of Islam.  These Turkish Muslim Mafia (NOT ALL) obviously went there for confrontation. Ideally such aid ships to Gaza should have people that are NOT MUSLIMS. It should only be international folk that are NOT Related Mr. Muhammad's Islam.

    2nd still IDF did blunder of jumping  on to the ship knowing well confrontation will take  place .,,  They should have simply towed the ship to harbor, have enough force something like 200 soldiers  and check every inch of every ship .. whatever humanitarian goods are there give it to Gaza folk and if there are arms and ammunition take it away..

    It was as simple as that. This fellow the leader of IDF handling that was stupid to do that..

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #62 - May 31, 2010, 10:48 PM

    I agree with what you say yeezevee.

    Only one thing:

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    These Turkish Muslim Mafia (NOT ALL) obviously went there for confrontation. Ideally such aid ships to Gaza should have people that are NOT MUSLIMS. It should only be international folk that are NOT Related Mr. Muhammad's Islam.

    I don't think Muslims worldwide will be happy to see that the oppressed Muslims of Gaza are being helped by non-Muslims alone.  That will make them feel even more helpless.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #63 - May 31, 2010, 11:00 PM

    Muslim rage is not new thing for those who lived in Islam and to those who read history of Islam.  These Turkish Muslim Mafia (NOT ALL) obviously went there for confrontation. Ideally such aid ships to Gaza should have people that are NOT MUSLIMS. It should only be international folk that are NOT Related Mr. Muhammad's Islam.

    2nd still IDF did blunder of jumping  on to the ship knowing well confrontation will take  place .,,  They should have simply towed the ship to harbor, have enough force something like 200 soldiers  and check every inch of every ship .. whatever humanitarian goods are there give it to Gaza folk and if there are arms and ammunition take it away..

    It was as simple as that. This fellow the leader of IDF handling that was stupid to do that..

    Yes but you forget that the ship was in international waters so the soldiers shouldn't have boarded the ship to start with.
    Remember the British soldiers (not activists but soldiers) who were captured in Iranian waters by the Iranians? EVERYBODY thought it was wrong !

    Having said that, if we disregard the international waters vs. Israeli waters technicality I totally understand why the soldiers would react that way. They were beating them with metal poles FFS.

    Also on a related note, people always say "well Israel is not occupying Gaza anymore". This makes me laugh. The Palestinians have no army, no control over their borders, and no control on who enters their areas. The fact that Israel doesn't allow any ship to Gaza's harbor is an example.
    So please spare us the BS. It is an occupation. There is one state only and it is called the State of Israel. The Palestinians have no state only limited autonomy.

  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #64 - May 31, 2010, 11:08 PM

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    Yes but you forget that the ship was in international waters so the soldiers shouldn't have boarded the ship to start with.


    That is  what I said  TWICE., may be you are not reading it.

    Quote
    So please spare us the BS. It is an occupation. There is one state only and it is called the State of Israel. The Palestinians have no state only limited autonomy.

    Well BS is BS., no one is saying it is NOT  an occupation...

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #65 - May 31, 2010, 11:18 PM

    1/
    That is  what I said  TWICE., may be you are not reading it.

    Sorry I didn't read that.

    2/
    Well BS is BS., no one is saying it is NOT  an occupation...

    The BS comment was not directed at you so please don't be offended.

    3/Your avatar is AWESOME.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #66 - May 31, 2010, 11:29 PM

    1/Sorry I didn't read that.

    2/The BS comment was not directed at you so please don't be offended.

    3/Your avatar is AWESOME.

    No.. no..Nah dear IA.,No apology needed., that is how discussions should be...

    Any way my man.. the INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC SECURITY EXPERT talks from Pakistan on this tragedy..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydSEJR_Q1Do

    Fool puts his foot in every Issue..., but 100 people are killed by these thugs in Lahore., he says no word..

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #67 - June 01, 2010, 12:56 AM

    Considering the Jihadist war songs they were singing the day before and considering the video showing their attack of the descending Israeli soliders, beating them with metal poles, why are thses people being described simply as "peace activists"? It's pretty clear they were ready and hoping for confrontation.

    I don't think it's right that the soldiers ended up killing those people, like Yezevee said, they could have easily just have towed the damn ships away and avoided giving them the PR they wanted. But on the other hand this does show the hypocrisy and double standard of the Islamic mindset and the wider international community at large:

    1) 10 deaths by Isreali soldiers? Immediate condemnation by non-Muslim states, accusations of massacaring, state-sponsored terrorism from Muslim leaders and massive angry protests across the world (which will turn violent and result in deaths mark my words).

    2) Daily jihad terror attacks, with death tolls much higher than 10, where innocent people are blown to bits, government officials are targeted, buildings destroyed, economimes ruined etc etc. Not so much anger, not so much protest, not so much condemnation by anyone.

    Put things into perspective.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #68 - June 01, 2010, 01:11 AM

    What?

    You mean some of these people sang nasty songs and hit the armed soldiers illegally boarding their ship?

    Outrageous!

    Thanks for putting it into perspective.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #69 - June 01, 2010, 01:19 AM

    Considering the Jihadist war songs they were singing the day before and considering the video showing their attack of the descending Israeli soliders, beating them with metal poles, why are thses people being described simply as "peace activists"? It's pretty clear they were ready and hoping for confrontation.

    Don't turn this into a Muslim thing Winston. You're starting to sound like a broken record. The people on the ship were of different nationalities and religions.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_clash#Notable_people_onboard_FGM_flotilla
    Thy were singing pro-Palestinian songs not Jihadist songs. Jihad means and Islamic campaign against nonbelievers. In this case it was a campaign against an occupation not for Muslim expansionism.
    Your us vs. Muslim mindset has blinded you.


    1) 10 deaths by Isreali soldiers? Immediate condemnation by non-Muslim states, accusations of massacaring, state-sponsored terrorism from Muslim leaders and massive angry protests across the world (which will turn violent and result in deaths mark my words).

    Again, don't make this about Muslims and Islam. Many Western and non-Muslim states condemned the actions of the IDF.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_Gaza_flotilla_clash


    2) Daily jihad terror attacks, with death tolls much higher than 10, where innocent people are blown to bits, government officials are targeted, buildings destroyed, economimes ruined etc etc. Not so much anger, not so much protest, not so much condemnation by anyone.

    Put things into perspective.

    The irony is that just the other day you called me a relativist. Relativism is the belief in changeable standards, the belief that concepts such as right and wrong, goodness and badness, or truth and falsehood are not absolute but change from culture to culture and situation to situation. Exactly what you're doing here. You shouldn't justify the actions. You should call a spade a spade.  Wink
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #70 - June 01, 2010, 01:33 AM

    Don't turn this into a Muslim thing Winston. You're starting to sound like a broken record. The people on the ship were of different nationalities and religions.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_clash#Notable_people_onboard_FGM_flotilla
    Thy were singing pro-Palestinian songs not Jihadist songs. Jihad means and Islamic campaign against nonbelievers. In this case it was a campaign against an occupation not for Muslim expansionism.
    Your us vs. Muslim mindset has blinded you.


    "Remember Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Mohammed will return!"

    This is a national resistance song that has nothing to do with Islam?

    Again, don't make this about Muslims and Islam. Many Western and non-Muslim states condemned the actions of the IDF.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_Gaza_flotilla_clash


    I know the IDF are in the unique postion of being the only army in the world who are not justified to defend themselves.

    The irony is that just the other day you called me a relativist. Relativism is the belief in changeable standards, the belief that concepts such as right and wrong, goodness and badness, or truth and falsehood are not absolute but change from culture to culture and situation to situation. Exactly what you're doing here. You shouldn't justify the actions. You should call a spade a spade.  Wink


    If you'll read carefully I noted that the killings were not a good thing and although I do think they were justified given the violent nature of the people on that ship (the soliders would surely have been killed had they not have opened fire). The fact that jihadists do much worse on a daily basis was not brought up to justify the incident on the boat but to merely highlight the obvious double standard in how these things are view and discussed in the wider world.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #71 - June 01, 2010, 08:26 AM

    The Nazi/Isreali arguement is long established and easly backed up .

    Here is a series of photographs that illustrate exactly that. Warning Some Graphic Content

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    It may be easily backed up, but it is equally easily disproven. Let's be realistic about this. Yes, the Israelis can be right idiots and assholes sometimes. However they are not sending Palestinians to gas chambers in an attempt to wipe them from the face of the earth completely. They do not deliberately set out to cause as many civilian casualties as possible (common Nazi practice for groups they didn't like). Nor, for that matter, are their policies within Israel anything like the policies of the Nazi government in Germany. Openly gay people from the surrounding areas can find refuge in Israel. I assure you that did not happen in Nazi Germany.

    Be careful about equating the Israelis with Nazis. It is not really an accurate comparison even if it does feel good sometimes. There are some similarities but there are also significant differences.

    Anyway, in my more cynical moments I have been known to say that the Nazis shouldn't have started on the Jews, but having started in some ways it's a pity they didn't finish because it would have saved a hell of a lot of shit.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #72 - June 01, 2010, 08:38 AM

    Hmm. This is a tricky one. It's difficult to blame the soldiers on board. Being beaten by a mob armed with steel poles can kill you. Self defence is a reasonable reaction.

    Should the soldiers have been ordered to board in the first place? That's the more pertinent question. Technically it was close to an act of piracy or an act of war. If the ships are Turkish then the Turks would have good grounds for giving the Israelis one hell of a hard time over this.

    ETA: Oh and the problem of the ships possibly carrying weapons for Hamas would be easy to solve. All that would need to be done would be to allow Israeli representatives to inspect the ships before they left Turkey. That would have been the smart way to handle this and could have saved a lot of problems.   

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #73 - June 01, 2010, 08:44 AM

    Surely under the circumstances attacking armed soldiers with metal poles is as stupid as it gets, especially if one claims to be a peace activist. Because the soldiers are going to open fire if their lives are at risk - anybody would. And there are going to be causalities.
    This whole incident was totally predictable and easily avoidable.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #74 - June 01, 2010, 08:49 AM

    "Flotillas and the Wars of Public Opinion"
    by George Friedman
    http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100531_flotillas_and_wars_public_opinion?utm_source=GWeekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=100531&utm_content=readmore&elq=ec0dbb5abd264ff39b3645c5d73e93b4

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #75 - June 01, 2010, 08:56 AM

    Surely under the circumstances attacking armed soldiers with metal poles is as stupid as it gets, especially if one claims to be a peace activist. Because the soldiers are going to open fire if their lives are at risk - anybody would. And there are going to be causalities.
    This whole incident was totally predictable and easily avoidable.

    Exactly. There was stupidity on both sides and as a result people are dead. Standard Operating Procedure for anything involving Israel and Palestine, unfortunately.

    If you really want to get a peaceful convoy of humanitarian aid into Gaza, which is a perfectly legitimate thing to want to do IMO, then you should have enough fucking brains to co-ordinate with the Israelis because they are paranoid as hell about weapons smuggling and with damned good reason. Invite the fuckers to supervise loading in Turkey. If you do that they have absolutely no reason to board or divert any ships once the convoy is under way. Shit, it's not rocket science.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #76 - June 01, 2010, 09:29 AM

    Israel holds 480 activists, expelling 48   says news

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    JERUSALEM: Israel has detained 480 pro-Palestinian activists captured in its deadly commando raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla and will expel 48 others, public radio reported Tuesday.

    Those detained were being held at the southern Israeli prison of Ashdod, while the other 48 were being taken to Ben Gurion international airport to be sent back to their home countries, said the report.


    Israeli officials would question the detainees before deciding whether to free them or prosecute them. Another 45 activists, most of them Turkish, were being treated in various hospitals.  At least nine people were killed during the Israeli operation to take control of the boats, most of them believed to be Turkish nationals.

    Israeli navy commandos stormed a Gaza-bound aid boat Monday in a pre-dawn raid that has sparked global outrage.

    But the Israeli Defence Forces has blamed activists on the ship for creating the confrontation by attacking its soldiers as they boarded the vessel.

    The bloody end to the operation prompted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cut short a visit to Canada and postpone a trip to Washington where he had been due to meet with US President Barack Obama Tuesday. —AFP


    So those 48 guys who  were put back on planes are from England and few other western countries., I wish I could have that list...

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #77 - June 01, 2010, 09:40 AM

    I don't get this. What exactly are you saying here?
    It's way too simplistic. Therefore this sort of argument can be elegantly refuted on grounds of veracity and factuality. One can criticise Israel effectively without resorting to this ridiculously false equation.


    Although there are unavoidable comparisons, they tend to be put forward in typically crass and thoughtless ways, rather than being effectively argued.

    The most striking equation, however, is with apartheid South Africa. Which, of course, Israel supported.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #78 - June 01, 2010, 09:46 AM

    That is a much better analogy than the Nazi one.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #79 - June 01, 2010, 09:49 AM

    Anyway I've been reading around a bit more and, surprise surprise, we have two completely different stories. One is that civilian peace activists have been murdered. The other is that members of a Turkish Islamist group on one of the ships attacked IDF soldiers and tried to kill them and the IDF soldiers reacted in self defence. Who do I believe? Frankly I don't completely believe any fucker in this debacle.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #80 - June 01, 2010, 09:49 AM

    Geography and demography of Palestine



    Demography until 1942
    http://www.cjpme.ca/documents/En%20Demographics%20Factsheet%20v.1.pdf


    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/paldem1.html
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    The CIA estimates the Palestinian population of the West Bank was 1,443,790 in July 1994 – roughly the point when key trades of territory for peace began – and 1,556,000 in July 1998. It totaled 2,164,000 in July 2002, and had increased by 50 percent since 1994. It still had an extraordinarily high growth rate of 3.39%, and it was very young. Some 44% of the population was 14 years of age or younger. The Palestinian population in the Gaza was 731,000 in July 1994, and 1,054,000 in July 1998. It totaled 1,225,911 in July 2002, and had increased by 68 percent since 1994. The population growth rate was 3.95%, one of the highest in the world, and 50% of the population was 14 years of age or younger.

    The UN provides a separate estimate of the total Palestinian population of the Gaza, East Jerusalem, and West Bank. It indicates that this population was 1,006,000 million in 1950, and rose to 1,100,000 in 1960, 1,094,000 in 1970, and then leapt to 1,477,000 in 1980 and 2,152,000 in 1990. This increase was the result of improvements in income and health services during the initial period of Israeli occupation before the Intifada. The Palestinian population rose to 2,629,000 in 1995 and 3,183,000 in 2000 – a more than 20% increase during the five years before the Israeli-Palestinian War [the second uprising] began.

    That these problems will increase steadily with time is indicated by the fact that the UN estimates that the Palestinian population will increase to 3,808,000 in 1995, 4,498,000 in 2010, 5,250,000 in 2015, 6,891,000 in 2025, and 11,055 in 2050. The World Bank estimates that the Palestinian population of both the West Bank and Gaza will increase from 3.1 million in 2001 to at least 4.8 million in 2015 – an increase of 55% if the current rate of Palestinian emigration continues, birth rates drop sharply in the near future, and no Palestinians return from the Palestinian diaspora in countries outside the West Bank and Gaza.

    Quote
    Country or region    Population
    West Bank and Gaza Strip    3,761,000[114]
    Jordan    2,700,000[3]
    Israel    1,318,000[115]
    Chile    500,000 (largest community outside the Arab world)[116][117][118]
    Syria    434,896[119]
    Lebanon    405,425[119]
    Saudi Arabia    327,000[115]
    The Americas    225,000[120]
    Egypt    44,200[120]
    Kuwait    (approx) 40,000[115]
    Other Gulf states    159,000[115]
    Other Arab states    153,000[115]
    Other countries    308,000[115]
    TOTAL    10,574,521


    Land Shrinks Population  Explodes..

    Remove Muhammad's Political Islam, The problem gets solved with in months if not weeks...

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #81 - June 01, 2010, 09:51 AM

    Well you could say that removing Judaism would solve the problem too. If all Israelis converted to Islam there wouldn't be a problem. Tongue

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #82 - June 01, 2010, 09:59 AM

    Well you could say that removing Judaism would solve the problem too. If all Israelis converted to Islam there wouldn't be a problem. Tongue

    No it will NOT.,   History is the proof of that.,  Even if you convert All Israel in to Muslims., they will be killing each other and on the way kill you & me  until the end by shouting   Allah hoo akbaar and My Islam is better than your Islam..

    There is fundamental problem with Muhammad and his Islam unlike Moses and his Judaism or Christ and his Christianity

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #83 - June 01, 2010, 10:06 AM

    Umm, so that would mean that the conflict in Northern Ireland never happened, since both sides were Christians.  Afro

    It would also mean that Syrians and Jordanians are constantly killing each other because they are Muslims, right? 

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #84 - June 01, 2010, 10:36 AM

    I really don't see a good outcome from this.

    World War I started because of ethnic tensions and economic troubles in Europe. After the war the "great" leading politicians of the time devised the Treaty of Versailles where they blamed Germany for starting the war, forcing them to pay astronomical sums in reperations. This lead to understandable anger and miscontent in Germany, and our good old friend Adolf eventually got into power because of it. They say that if Adolf Hitler didn't rise to power, someone else with similar goals would have.

    The point is that the second world war was pretty much a direct result from the first world war, and the mistakes the politicians of the time made.

    In the aftermath of WW2, we got Israel, in what is proving to be a huge mistake. The actions of the politicians back then are generating anger and miscontent yet again. If there ever is a WW3, I think it will be something related to Israel: a direct result from WW2. I really can't see a peaceful solution in the long run.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
    George Santayana.

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #85 - June 01, 2010, 10:36 AM

    "Remember Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Mohammed will return!"

    This is a national resistance song that has nothing to do with Islam?

    Wow. I'm gobsmacked. They were singing this on the ship?! What is your source btw?


    I know the IDF are in the unique postion of being the only army in the world who are not justified to defend themselves.

     Cheesy
    Are you sure it's not the opposite?


    If you'll read carefully I noted that the killings were not a good thing and although I do think they were justified given the violent nature of the people on that ship (the soliders would surely have been killed had they not have opened fire). The fact that jihadists do much worse on a daily basis was not brought up to justify the incident on the boat but to merely highlight the obvious double standard in how these things are view and discussed in the wider world.

    If you read carefully I said that since they were beaten with metal poles I don't blame the soldiers. However, given that the ship was still in international waters, the whole operation was unjustified and illegal regardless of the legitimacy of the soldiers' instinctive response. Turkey has every right to regard this as an act of war.
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #86 - June 01, 2010, 10:37 AM

    Just found a video of what the innocent civilian peace activists were apparently armed with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM&feature=player_embedded

    Looks very peaceful.  parrot

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #87 - June 01, 2010, 10:38 AM

    osmanthus
    Quote
    Umm, so that would mean that the conflict in Northern Ireland never happened, since both sides were Christians.  Afro

    It would also mean that Syrians and Jordanians are constantly killing each other because they are Muslims, right?   

    I knew some one is going to hit me with that but I didn't expect it from you dear osmanthus. That is a good question to explore and I think about it all the time.

    But I tell you here, the reason these guys from both sides(Ireland and British) are fighting/killing each other, because they are NOT following Christ and acting UNCHRISTIAN  LIKE., Where as Muslims are acting exactly like Mr. PBUH as he preaches in Quran/hadith and sunnah. This is   Because these religions, for that matter every religion stems from its founder.  Founder is  the role model.

    Syrians and Jordanians will each other for the sake of their Islam or for the sake their kings/leaders.  You can see that in Shia/sunni business or fights with-in sunnis since the death of Muhammad.

    So people have to realize the fundamental differences between Judaism,  Christianity and Islam...  Mullahs, Imams of Islam will highlight you better than I could ever do on that dear osmanthus.

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #88 - June 01, 2010, 10:45 AM

    My point was that there are Muslim countries where people do not go around killing each other. As far as I know Jordan and Syria have never fought a war. Neither has Saudi Arabia or any of the Gulf states. So you can't assume that if Judaism was removed from Israel there would still be as much violence. I think it would be utterly hilarious actually if all Israelis suddenly converted to Islam. It would totally flummox the Islamic militants. They wouldn't know what hit them. Cheesy

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  • Re: Isrealis attack Aid Convoy ships
     Reply #89 - June 01, 2010, 10:50 AM

    Come to think of it this would be an awesome strategic move on Israel's part. Think about it. No Muslim country criticises other Muslim countries. No Muslim country gives a fuck about injustices in other Muslim countries. No Muslim country tries to right wrongs perpetrated against minority groups in another Muslim country. It's perfect.

    The Islamists would freak. Publicly they'd have to be happy and welcoming about it but privately they'd be fuming and calling it a dastardly move.  dance   

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