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  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #90 - June 06, 2010, 02:45 PM

    no such thing as an islamic name (correct me if im wrong) they are in arabic.

    an Islamic names originally are Arabic.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #91 - June 09, 2010, 12:21 PM

    ygalg can I ask you about your religious convictions? or lack of?

    if you're not religious, then why? what made you disbelieve?

    and what does your username mean?

    I'm cultural Jew. agnostic. secular.

    my estrangement from Judaism, resulted from spending time in faithfreedom.org
    it did not happen in one day. it's a process. faithfreedom.org gave me the opportunity to examine my conviction. my belief.

    eventually turn me into inflexible toward religions, superstitious... in whole.

    i.e I won't settle for textual or philosophical interpretation of god existence or any other claim over supernatural existence without
    proof beyond any reasonable doubt, decisive proof, irrefutable evidence that will bring me "back to answer" (as religious Jews name it). thus it will take parting of the sea to convince me
    grin12 or that
    could convince me too ...hubba hubba Tongue

    username top secret cool2
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #92 - June 09, 2010, 12:37 PM

    Er yeah I would convert to Judaism as well for her. Who is she?
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #93 - June 09, 2010, 03:42 PM

    she is all american Afro
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #94 - June 12, 2010, 01:50 AM

    as an apostate, have you not consider to change your name to a suitable for liberated individual?


    It's like BD and CocoPop said, it becomes part of your identity. I've thought of changing mine on many occasions but could never quite bring myself to do it, though I wouldn't rule it out. And I have an Islamic name, and I've never even been Muslim. Fuck, I don't even share my Arabic surname with the family that raised me. All my relatives in the US save my half-sister have Irish surnames and regular ole Christian given names. When I was growing up a begged my family to change my name. They repeatedly told me no, that I had to wait until I was 18, and I could change it then. I longed for the day I became an adult and could change my name, but once I actually got there, couldn't do it.

    Only Palestinians who have Western passports are not allowed to fly to Israel. They have to cross by land from Jordan.


    What about with US passports?

    This Palestinian immigrant I knew once told me a story about how he was walking down a street in Israel and some racist older Israeli was following him with a vicious dog that kept barking and was on one of those quick-release chains. He crossed the street to get away from him, but the other guy crossed too and was getting closer.

    So the Palestinian dude tells him "You better not let that dog hurt me, I'm an American citizen!" Israeli doesn't believe him, so homie (his name was Jihad actually  Cheesy) shows him his US passport and the Israeli dude's eyes got a scared look in them and he immediately left. Guess he figured the cops would go a lot harder on him if he hurt an American citizen versus some regular old Palestinian sand nigger on the street.

    Membership has its privileges.  Wink

    Also, preventing Palestinians who are citizens of Western nations from flying there-- how and by whom exactly is this enforced? Can they not even get on the plane?

    Quote
    Israel is the freest most democratic country in the Middle East.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World_%28report%29#Middle_East_.26_North_Africa


    While I don't necessarily dispute that claim, I certainly wouldn't base any claim about freedom on a report by Freedom House. It's funded by the US State Department and several conservative, corporate-funded foundations. So you basically get "Freedom around the world according to the US State Department."

    Very, very biased stuff. For instance they have Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela listed as "Partly Free" in contrast with most of their neighbors, with very little justification for it-- the one thing they all have in common is that they are strongly opposed to US foreign policy and foreign corporate interests there. Now Bolivia they had listed as "Free" in 2002, 2003, and 2004. But since 2005 it's been listed as only "Partly Free". Hmmmm-- what happened during that time? Oh, right, the people revolted against IMF-imposed "liberalization policies" including privatizing the water supply, and then Evo Morales, former leader of the coca growers union was elected President and quickly made it clear he intended to reduce the interference of foreign powers (especially the US) in Bolivia's affairs, was not down with the Drug War or the Washington Consensus, and might even nationalize oil and gas reserves.

    Their websites maps only go back to 2002, but I'd bet ya dollars to donuts Venezuela moved into the "partly free" column from the "free" column sometime between 1999 and 2000, when Chavez first got elected.

    Furthermore, if they were to include criteria like incarceration rates, the US wouldn't be faring nearly as well as their European counterparts in the rankings.

    EDIT: Another example of clear "World According to the State Department" bias is listing the Palestinian Occupied Territories, Transnistria, Abkhazia, and NKR under "Disputed Territories" but Kosovo is not.

    fuck you
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #95 - June 12, 2010, 06:20 AM

    I am lucky that it's common for Indonesian muslim to give their kids Indonesian name (it's also common to give Islamic name as well). My parents choose to gave me an Indonesian name, many of Indonesian also named Muhammad, Aisyah or Fatimah, I don't think it suit us. I'll surely give my kids Indonesian name  yes
    My name is Vira anyway (I'm not sure if this is pure Indonesian name), but I'm sure my last name is pure Indonesian.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #96 - June 12, 2010, 11:05 AM

    What about with US passports?

    Also, preventing Palestinians who are citizens of Western nations from flying there-- how and by whom exactly is this enforced? Can they not even get on the plane?

    Yes any Palestinian who has a Palestinian Authority ID Card is considered a Palestinian by the Israelis even if he was born in the USA and has never been to Israel. In fact even those who don't have a PA ID card but whose parents or grandparents were born or lived in the West Bank or Gaza are considered Palestinians. Which means they will be denied entry at Ben Gurion airport and will have to enter Israel by land from Jordan.

    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1064.html#entry_requirements

    "The U.S. Government seeks equal treatment and freedom to travel for all American citizens regardless of national origin or ethnicity. U.S. citizens who encounter difficulties are encouraged to contact the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv or the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem by e-mail or at the numbers above.

    Security Screening: U.S. citizens are advised that all persons applying for entry to Israel, the West Bank, or Gaza are subject to security and police record checks by the Government of Israel, and may be denied entry or exit without explanation.

    U.S. citizen visitors have been subjected to prolonged questioning and thorough searches by Israeli authorities upon entry or departure. U.S. citizens whom Israeli authorities suspect of being of Arab, Middle Eastern, or Muslim origin; those who have been involved in missionary or activist activity; and those who ask that Israeli stamps not be entered into their passport may face additional, often time-consuming, and probing questioning by immigration and border authorities, or may even be denied entry into Israel, the West Bank, or Gaza.

    U.S. citizens who feel they have been wrongly denied entry to Israel or the West Bank, or unnecessarily subjected to additional security screening, may fill out the Denial of Entry Sheet located under the U.S. citizen services tab at the Jerusalem Consulate General web site, or contact the American Citizen Services (ACS) unit of the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv.

    Israeli-Americans: The Government of Israel considers U.S. citizens who also hold Israeli citizenship or have a claim to dual nationality to be Israeli citizens for immigration and other legal purposes. For example, an American citizen child of an Israeli parent will be considered an Israeli citizen by Israeli immigration officials, even if the child was born outside of Israel, and Israeli law will apply to the child's travel to, and departure from, Israel. U.S. citizens who are also citizens of Israel must enter and depart Israel using their current Israeli passport. Israeli citizens are currently not permitted to enter Gaza and are generally restricted from traveling to parts of the West Bank under PA control (“Area A”). Contact the Israeli Ministry of Interior or your nearest Israeli Embassy or Consulate for more information on citizenship and travel restrictions for Israeli citizens.

    Palestinian-Americans: U.S. citizens who have a PA identification number or who the Government of Israel considers to have residency status in the West Bank or Gaza are advised to read this section very carefully.

    It is possible that Israeli authorities would consider as Palestinian anyone who has a Palestinian identification number, was born in the West Bank or Gaza, or was born in the United States but has parents or grandparents who were born or lived in the West Bank or Gaza. Any such U.S. citizen may be required to travel to Israel using his or her PA passport, regardless of whether he or she holds U.S. citizenship. Without the PA passport, such Americans may be barred from entering or exiting Israel, the West Bank or Gaza, or they may face serious delays at the ports of entry.

    Individuals who hold a PA ID, as well as persons judged by Israeli authorities to have claim to a PA ID by virtue of ancestry, will be considered subject to Israeli law and to regulations that Israel applies to residents of the West Bank and Gaza, regardless of whether they also hold U.S. citizenship. In most cases, such individuals will be required by Israeli authorities to enter the West Bank via the Allenby Bridge (also known as King Hussein Bridge) crossing with Jordan, rather than entering Israel via Ben Gurion International Airport, unless they obtain  permission from an Israeli Embassy or Consulate for that purpose in advance. Even if they have entered Israel via Ben Gurion Airport, they may be required to depart via the Allenby Bridge. Upon arrival at any of the Ports of Entry, such persons may wish to consider asking Israeli immigration authorities from where they will be required to depart.
    @



    While I don't necessarily dispute that claim, I certainly wouldn't base any claim about freedom on a report by Freedom House........

    Thanks for the info. Good stuff.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #97 - June 12, 2010, 02:27 PM

    What really infuriates me about that is the US always prides itself on taking care of its citizens in foreign lands, yet they allow this official ethnic discrimination against their own citizens in Israel. Because you can't tell me that the US couldn't lean on Israel and get them to change that policy for Palestinians who are US citizens if they really wanted to. Basically it's not just Israel saying they're gonna discriminate against those of Palestinian origin, but the US saying Palestinian-Americans are second-class citizens. Can you imagine the uproar if one of our "allies" like Germany said Mexican-Americans couldn't fly in but had to come in through Denmark? There would be a huge diplomatic row over that and the US would prevail in short order. But it's okay when it comes to Israel not letting in the sand-niggers-- we aren't real Americans anyways.

    fuck you
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #98 - June 12, 2010, 03:09 PM

    *loves the cheetah video*
    I watch big cat diaries on animal planet ALL the time!  Afro

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #99 - June 12, 2010, 04:34 PM

    What really infuriates me about that is the US always prides itself on taking care of its citizens in foreign lands, yet they allow this official ethnic discrimination against their own citizens in Israel. Because you can't tell me that the US couldn't lean on Israel and get them to change that policy for Palestinians who are US citizens if they really wanted to. Basically it's not just Israel saying they're gonna discriminate against those of Palestinian origin, but the US saying Palestinian-Americans are second-class citizens. Can you imagine the uproar if one of our "allies" like Germany said Mexican-Americans couldn't fly in but had to come in through Denmark? There would be a huge diplomatic row over that and the US would prevail in short order. But it's okay when it comes to Israel not letting in the sand-niggers-- we aren't real Americans anyways.

    Yeah I was shocked too.
    A Palestinian friend who's got a Chilean cousin of Palestinian descent, told me about this. Israel allows Chilean citizens to travel visa-free but also discriminates against Chileans of Palestinian descent. So I told him it could be because Chile is not that big a country nor it is an important ally to Israel. So he told me that even Brits and Americans of Palestinian descent face the same measures. I kept arguing with him and telling him this was impossible as the US would simply not let it happen. So we bet on it, left our sheeshas, and went to the nearest internet cafe to check it. Needless to say, I ended up buying him dinner and a new sheesha.  grin12
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #100 - June 13, 2010, 02:14 PM

    ---> but the US saying Palestinian-Americans are second-class citizens  <---

    and from whence did this come from?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #101 - June 13, 2010, 02:22 PM

    ^ Did you read the whole travel advice page at the State Department website?
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #102 - August 06, 2010, 11:01 AM

    Quote
    American VIP humiliated at airport

    Prof. Donna Shalala, Clinton's secretary of health, arrives in Israel in order to fight academic boycott against Israel, claims she was detained at Ben Gurion Airport just because she has Arab last name

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3931210,00.html
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #103 - August 06, 2010, 11:04 AM

    Does she support the boycott now?
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #104 - August 06, 2010, 05:56 PM

    Ms. Shalala issued the following statement about the incident after this article was published:
    Quote
    "While I was inconvenienced, Israel's security and the security of travelers is far more important. I have been going in and out of Israel for many years and expect to visit again.”

    http://chronicle.com/blogPost/U-of-Miami-President-Halted/26053/
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #105 - August 06, 2010, 06:00 PM

    I'm glad she thinks racism is vital for Israel's security and the security of travelers.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #106 - August 06, 2010, 06:35 PM

    well that discrimination imposed. if not for terrorism, this racism as you call it, would not be in existence.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #107 - August 06, 2010, 06:44 PM

    Lol. How convenient.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #108 - August 06, 2010, 06:50 PM

    no. it's reality.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #109 - August 06, 2010, 06:54 PM

    You know what's reality? The Reichstag fire of 1933.

     Afro
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #110 - August 06, 2010, 07:37 PM

    that's history.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #111 - August 06, 2010, 07:45 PM

    So's the Holocaust.

     Smiley
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #112 - August 07, 2010, 09:16 AM

    and how is it relevant?
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #113 - August 07, 2010, 09:27 AM

    You're either too ignorant or too inconvenienced to know what I'm talking about. Not that it matters; a bigot will always be a bigot, that's kind of part of the definition.

     Smiley
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #114 - August 07, 2010, 09:30 AM

    You're either too ignorant or too inconvenienced to know what I'm talking about. Not that it matters; a TROLL will always be a TROLL, that's kind of part of the definition.

     Smiley

    FTFY  grin12

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #115 - August 07, 2010, 09:34 AM

     Cheesy
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #116 - August 07, 2010, 11:12 AM

    Muslims blowing up busses, restaurants and buildings in the name of Islam is not comparable to one single arsonist who happens to be a Communist to lump entire communists as pathological arsonists. unless there was a systematic behavior of communists to do so. there wasn't any and despite that Hitler sought to blame entire communists. that how his logic worked.

    speak to the body of the issue not ad hom. that would be productive.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #117 - August 07, 2010, 01:37 PM

    Do you know how strong the Communist movement in Germany was? Let me remind you that there was a Communist revolution right after the First World War. And it was as likely to be a Jew and a Communist as it is today to be an Arab and a Muslim extremist. But you see, ultra-nationalist Zionists have a short-term memory that doesn't go back farther than 1945.
  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #118 - August 07, 2010, 06:20 PM

    we are not discussing Russian revolution. somehow you brought up the Germany part as comparable to the treatment of the airport security regrading Ms. Shalala which is inconstant IMO. Israel is in constant threat by islamists. and they are not a fringe. despite that I see many Muslims in cities traveling freely without disturbance. but if a Jew by mistake turn out in Muslim neighborhood the chances he would be lynched.



  • Re: ygalg replying BlackDog
     Reply #119 - August 07, 2010, 06:23 PM

    We're absolutely not discussing the Russian Revolution, you're right. We're discussing the German Revolution, which was led by the Jewish Rosa Luxemburg. And let's not forget that many Jewish people were Communist. In fact, one of the main reasons liberal democracies didn't want to accept Jewish refugees during the Nazi reign was because they were afraid they'd be Communist.
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