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 Topic: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!

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  • Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     OP - June 09, 2010, 09:24 PM

    I am forwarding this from Maryam:

    Hi
    I need urgent help in putting this document together:
    * Produce an 'expert' document to support those applying for asylum as a
    result of having fled apostasy laws by documenting Sharia law and cases of
    execution or persecution in countries where apostasy is a crime.
    Hassan can you ask again on the forum if anyone can help? It needs to be
    started and finished by mid-June. Two volunteers were working on it but I
    haven't heard back from them so need to make a new appeal.
    thanks
    Maryam
  • Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #1 - June 09, 2010, 09:37 PM

    Hassan, I'll split this into a new thread where members can post stories from around the world of specific, documented cases where Shariah law was applied and human rights were abused as a result. Thanks for the heads-up!

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #2 - June 09, 2010, 11:55 PM

    A recent story is the guy in maldives who openly declared his atheism during a zakir naik event, he got assaulted by the crowd and then taken to the police station where he was kept for 10 days and faced the death penalty unless he accept islam again, which he did to save his life..

    Details:
    http://www.realcourage.org/2010/05/mohamed-nazim/
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #3 - August 27, 2010, 09:33 PM

    A recent story is the guy in maldives who openly declared his atheism during a zakir naik event, he got assaulted by the crowd and then taken to the police station where he was kept for 10 days and faced the death penalty unless he accept islam again, which he did to save his life..

    Details:
    http://www.realcourage.org/2010/05/mohamed-nazim/



    Oh this poor poor man, why wasnt this reported strongly in the media? How is he doing now?
    Zakir Naik is not allowed in Canada, and this is why.

    Maliki yawm ul LULZ
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #4 - August 27, 2010, 09:37 PM

    Seeing him "revert" to Islam broke my heart.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-byykmyFuIs

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #5 - August 27, 2010, 10:08 PM

    A recent story is the guy in maldives who openly declared his atheism during a zakir naik event, he got assaulted by the crowd and then taken to the police station where he was kept for 10 days and faced the death penalty unless he accept islam again, which he did to save his life..

    Details:
    http://www.realcourage.org/2010/05/mohamed-nazim/

    What a bunch of primitive savages.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #6 - August 27, 2010, 10:50 PM

    I'm sure he is really convinced of Islam's truthyness now.   whistling2

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #7 - August 28, 2010, 12:54 AM

    "let there be no compulsion in religion."

    lol

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #8 - August 28, 2010, 02:13 AM

    I'm sure he is really convinced of Islam's truthyness now.   whistling2

    Cheesy

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #9 - August 28, 2010, 02:19 PM

    "let there be no compulsion in religion."

    lol


    Greatest joke of the year.  parrot

    Is your grammar defective? Just askin'.


    "The wound is the place where the Light enters you." - Rumi

  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #10 - August 28, 2010, 02:22 PM

    Back to Hassan's op.  I will post the questions in some other forums I frequent that have several active lawyers.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #11 - August 28, 2010, 03:23 PM

    was scouring youtube and came across this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgDPShSxHO0&feature=fvw

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #12 - August 28, 2010, 08:26 PM

     Well, even being a Muslim, after many years, I sometimes have serious doubt that Islam is peaceful. I don't beleive that secular Muslims anyway have the good interpretation of Islam but if we look at the moderates one (I don't mean those like Tarek Ramadan who are playing a game and in fact are real radicals but just disguised) and the radicals one, we of course like the moderates one but as it is an interpretation, and why should not the radical interpretation be a valid one, this based on the Quran and the Hadith. In every religion or movements there are always more tendencies.
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #13 - August 29, 2010, 04:31 AM

    Greatest joke of the year.  parrot


    Greatest joke of the last ~1400 years.

    Maliki yawm ul LULZ
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #14 - August 29, 2010, 01:04 PM

    Well, even being a Muslim, after many years, I sometimes have serious doubt that Islam is peaceful. I don't beleive that secular Muslims anyway have the good interpretation of Islam but if we look at the moderates one (I don't mean those like Tarek Ramadan who are playing a game and in fact are real radicals but just disguised) and the radicals one, we of course like the moderates one but as it is an interpretation, and why should not the radical interpretation be a valid one, this based on the Quran and the Hadith. In every religion or movements there are always more tendencies.


    Why don't you believe in god, and take all the good you can from Islamic texts but just say that you want to find good in all traditions and throw away the bed?
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #15 - August 29, 2010, 01:55 PM

    No! Don't throw away the bed! You will feel horrible afterwards...

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  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #16 - August 29, 2010, 02:31 PM

    This is good article from Ali Sina at http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/letters/how-to-combat-islam/ on that Sharia Laws..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #17 - August 29, 2010, 02:33 PM

    Diem... (off topic)
    in your signature, is that "he is the cat's meow? LOL!!!  
    just a wild guess.   Cheesy

    It seems culture is so infused with religion, sometimes its difficult to separate them.
    Example.  Eating a date to break a fast.  What if you live somewhere where dates aren't
    readily available?   Does spotting the crescent moon count in Brazil?  And of course,
    the beaten-to-the-ground,  parroting arabic?   Why does one need a turkish style
    bathroom vs. any other style?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #18 - August 29, 2010, 02:35 PM

    Why don't you believe in god, and take all the good you can from Islamic texts but just say that you want to find good in all traditions and throw away the bed?


    thats called "pick and choose", and xians are "accused" of this all the time.
    Ask ANY muslim cleric if this is an acceptable form of islam.
    Pray tell, what ARE the "good" things in islamic texts?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #19 - August 29, 2010, 03:14 PM

    Mohammad Mostafaei. let there be Million Mostafaeis born  in that Persian Land..



    Quote
    ]The lawyer defending a woman sentenced to death by stoning in Iran said on Sunday that he has applied for asylum in Norway, but hopes Iranian authorities will allow him eventually to return to his practice.

    Mohammad Mostafaei told reporters he chose to flee to Norway after obtaining a one-year Norwegian travel visa. He also cited the Nordic country's prominent human rights profile.

    The 31-year-old said he fled to Turkey last week after learning Iranian officials intended to arrest him. He flew to Norway Saturday after being detained briefly in Turkey over an undisclosed passport issue.


    Human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei, who represented Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, a woman sentenced to death by stoning for adultery, was forced to flee Iran after the authorities became determined to silence him. Speaking to German news magazine Der Spiegel from his exile in Norway, he talked of his plans to continue the fight to save Ashtiani.

    It's time to pack his suitcases again, vacate his attic room and move on to the next place. Mohammad Mostafaei, 37, is exhausted, and even a cold shower isn't enough to wake him up. But at least Mostafaei has a suitcase now, after being on the run for almost three weeks. All he carried while crossing the mountains into Turkey on foot was a small backpack, just big enough for his laptop and a change of underwear.

    Mostafaei, an Iranian lawyer and human rights activist who has already become an international human rights cause himself, is now sitting with his few belongings in a small hotel in the Norwegian capital Oslo, wondering what happens next.

    What will happen to his wife Fereshteh, 32, and his daughter Parmida, 7, who he left behind in Tehran? Shortly after he disappeared, the regime's thugs took his wife and her brothers into custody temporarily. And what will happen to his client Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, 43, whose cause he had championed with such enthusiasm? Ashtiani was sentenced to death by stoning for the crime of adultery, but her sentence was commuted to hanging after international protests.

    Quote
    No Regrets

    Mostafaei rubs his bloodshot eyes and holds his teacup tightly in his hands. He doesn't have much to hold onto - except the certainty that the Iranian judges were determined to silence him. He had become a thorn in their sides, and they had grown weary of his sharp criticism of their political sentences and archaic punishments.

    In his diary, excerpts of which were published by Spiegel in June, he criticized stoning, the death penalty for adultery in Iran. Soon afterwards, he voiced his support for an international campaign in solidarity with Ashtiani, but it was a step too far for the authorities. Even now, alone in exile, Mostafaei says he doesn't regret his efforts on behalf of his client.

    He was only allowed to visit her once at the prison where she was being held, in the northern Iranian city of Tabriz. It is a rundown facility, where Ashtiani shares cell number four with 25 other women. But even the poor conditions at the prison, says Mostafaei, are easier for her to endure than her former marriage. He calls it a "silent martyrdom" and says that his client, who he calls by her first name, Sakineh, was treated "like a slave." According to Mostafaei, she became filled with "hate" and was motivated by "hopelessness". And because of the "backward divorce laws" in Iran, separation was practically inconceivable for someone like Sakineh.

    In fact, Iranian divorce law is legalized discrimination. While men can readily petition for divorce in Iranian courts, women are required to provide convincing grounds. A woman has to prove that her husband is missing, refuses to support her or is "harassing" her -- through acts of violence, for example. "In Iran, there are many women like Sakineh, who are at the mercy of their husbands," says Mostafaei.


    Quote
    'I Love Iran'

    Mostafaei doesn't want to apply for asylum, because he plans to return home one day. "I love Iran," he says, sounding homesick already, although the government in Tehran gives him little hope. His client was paraded on state television as an underhanded murderer of her husband, with no mention of the adultery for which she is to be stoned to death. Now she blames her attorney for having made her case public and thus bringing "shame" on her family. Human rights activists like Amiry-Moghaddam are convinced Ashtiani's statement was "forced." Was it a prelude to her execution?

    Mostafaei's allies expect him to remain in Norway for a long time to come. Now it's time for him to pack for his next destination, a small apartment in the city of Drammen. The town is only half an hour's train ride from Oslo where - as he plans to do at the beginning of this week - he can report to the rest of the world on the barbaric punishment his former client could face.

    Mostafaei hasn't given up his fight for Ashtiani yet.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129063869

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Shariah law abuse cases - post documented cases here!
     Reply #20 - August 29, 2010, 03:22 PM

     Cry  I have met and talked to Persians who escaped after the shaw was ousted.  They told
    me about that very same trek across the mountains in Turkey.  That route is filled
    with unbelievable dangers and peril.  So many in the world have no idea the desperation
    of those who are NOT free, and the risks they take for said freedom.  I have pics of
    those mountains somewhere (I was in SE Turkey) and when I find them, will upload
    and share them.

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
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