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 Topic: Peace, All

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #540 - June 21, 2010, 11:13 PM

    And MRasheed, I checked out that psychedelic drugs researcher's website, on which I found this:

    It is in response to his request that I include highly speculative ideas and my own personal motivations for performing this research.

    Nor would I be honest if I did not share my own speculations and theories based upon decades of study, and listening to hundreds of DMT sessions.

    I don't think this gentleman considers his work as some kind of QED proof of the existence of the supernatural.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #541 - June 21, 2010, 11:14 PM

    No need - I already know how he will answer that.  He will say Allah did give the Native Americans the message.  The Quran says 122,000 messengers allegedly were sent out (& rejected), Mo was simply the last of the bunch..


    "122,000?"  Really?  What Surah was that?

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #542 - June 21, 2010, 11:15 PM

    Hadith not sura.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #543 - June 21, 2010, 11:15 PM

    And MRasheed, I checked out that psychedelic drugs researcher's website, on which I found this:

    It is in response to his request that I include highly speculative ideas and my own personal motivations for performing this research.

    Nor would I be honest if I did not share my own speculations and theories based upon decades of study, and listening to hundreds of DMT sessions.

    I don't think this gentleman considers his work as some kind of QED proof of the existence of the supernatural.


    He does.  

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #544 - June 21, 2010, 11:16 PM

    My wife is God-fearing and completely within her right mind, and therefore, would never want to have sex while she is menustrating.


    Rasheed has yet to earn his blood wings.

    fuck you
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #545 - June 21, 2010, 11:16 PM

    Hadith not sura.


    Oh.  

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #546 - June 21, 2010, 11:17 PM

    My wife is God-fearing and completely within her right mind, and therefore, would never want to have sex while she is menustrating.

    Dude, I think it's just because most men get grossed out by bloody vaginas, and women are usually not in the mood when they're menstruating.

    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #547 - June 21, 2010, 11:17 PM

    Rasheed has yet to earn his blood wings.


    [du'a]please God don't let him be referring to what i think he is.  Ameen.[/du'a]

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #548 - June 21, 2010, 11:18 PM

    To me that sounds like you fell into a level of disbelief that is truly hard to escape from.  Hard unless you reach for Him again and hold on to the course and patiently wait for His help.  I do not envy your position..

    Do it Hass. Do it  Afro  Save your damned soul from the flames of Damnation.  Ameen.

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #549 - June 21, 2010, 11:18 PM

    [du'a]please God don't let him be referring to what i think he is.  Ameen.[/du'a]


    ROFL  Afro
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #550 - June 21, 2010, 11:19 PM

    He does.  


    Well, unless you can substantiate that, you'll have to pardon me if I don't believe you.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #551 - June 21, 2010, 11:19 PM

    Dude, I think it's just because most men get grossed out by bloody vaginas, and women are usually not in the mood when they're menstruating.


    Thanks Wink
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #552 - June 21, 2010, 11:19 PM

    women are usually not in the mood when they're menstruating.


    Only true to the extent that some women get self-conscious about it.

    fuck you
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #553 - June 21, 2010, 11:21 PM

    Dude, I think it's just because most men get grossed out by bloody vaginas, and women are usually not in the mood when they're menstruating.


    I know a lot of women who have sex, and have had sex during the menses.  They all say that 1.) it stops while they are having sex and   2.) they cramp very badly afterward.  To me that means to friggin' do as their Guardian Lord commanded before they injure themselves.  Give Him the benefit of the doubt that He knows what He's talking about considering He made the d@mned thing.

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #554 - June 21, 2010, 11:22 PM

    Well, unless you can substantiate that, you'll have to pardon me if I don't believe you.


    *shrug*

    He was interviewed and quoted in Graham Hancock's book Supernatural.  Check it out.

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #555 - June 21, 2010, 11:24 PM

    His belief system is not even fully Islamic though.


    Ah!  The old "You're not even a real Muslim" technique.

    Sweet!   Afro  (and original!)

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #556 - June 21, 2010, 11:25 PM

    Quote
    What I wish to illicit is whether he is incapable of understanding his illogic - or is he deliberately avoiding logic.

     
    I often wonder this too, but not just with Rasheed.  The answer is that they are all able to see past it, so they either form cognitive dissonance around it (e.g. this is what faith is) or to protect themselves just quote verbatum from the Quran on the assumption that its correct and thus provides you with the answer your looking for, even if it makes little sense to them.

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #557 - June 21, 2010, 11:25 PM

    Have you ever considered that maybe Mohammed made it haram because he noticed the women getting cramps? I don't think he needed God to tell him that.

    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #558 - June 21, 2010, 11:28 PM

    What about buttsex Rasheed?

    fuck you
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #559 - June 21, 2010, 11:28 PM

    if it is god's will so what is it no longer appropriate? do you think that it should be restored?


    No.  There are clearly certain things in our society that He left for us to work out among ourselves.  There are things that are truly evil to Him and He commanded against them.  Everything else He left for us to use our best judgment on using our understanding of His guidance from Scripture.

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #560 - June 21, 2010, 11:30 PM

    Have you ever considered that maybe Mohammed made it haram because he noticed the women getting cramps? I don't think he needed God to tell him that.


    Considering no other leader from before Him managed to put two-and-two together the way you're implying, I think it's obvious that we did need God to say something (wait... aren't you meatheads arguing for it too???  lol).

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #561 - June 21, 2010, 11:32 PM

    Oh.  

    Sorry, I got it wrong.  The Quran only says a messenger was sent to every group of people during all time.  The actual figure quoted is from the weak hadith.  However I dont think that this changes the premise of my original post so it still holds true.

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #562 - June 21, 2010, 11:32 PM

    [2:171]
    The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.

    [7:179]
    We have created for Gehenna many jinn and men: they have hearts, but understand not with them; they have eyes, but perceive not with them; they have ears, but they hear not with them. They are like cattle; nay, rather they are further astray. Those -- they are the heedless.

    Sounds more like the zealots who make their beliefs inaccessible and unamenable to reason than those who disbelieve in Islam, as far as I can tell...
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #563 - June 21, 2010, 11:34 PM

    Rasheed my friend, I don't want you to feel we are all having a go at you. I have Muslim family and have huge empathy for Muslims. Like others here we just like to debate Islam as it is something we have been through. But I am certainly not on a mission to try and turn anyone away from islam.

    I suggest you stay and join in other discussions here and get to know us a bit.

    We are generally a nice bunch. (Except for IsLame - he's evil and his butt smells)


    I had no intention of leaving.  I'm having a ball. 

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #564 - June 21, 2010, 11:34 PM

    Grin
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #565 - June 21, 2010, 11:35 PM

    What about buttsex Rasheed?

    Now there's an offer I'm sure he'll refuse..

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #566 - June 21, 2010, 11:36 PM

    He also made us an inquisitive race and with a mind - how could he expect us not to use it?


    Of course you should use it!  But give Him the benefit of the doubt that He knows what He is talking about.  Use the concept of "No god but the One God" as a mathematical truth in it (like '0' in math or something.)

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #567 - June 21, 2010, 11:37 PM

    Considering no other leader from before Him managed to put two-and-two together the way you're implying, I think it's obvious that we did need God to say something (wait... aren't you meatheads arguing for it too???  lol).


    You know, it's funny that Allah never said menstruating women shouldn't have intercourse because they'll get cramps. He said that men shouldn't go near women because it's 'unclean.'

    You'll catch period-disease if you go near menstruating women!!
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #568 - June 21, 2010, 11:37 PM

    Considering no other leader from before Him managed to put two-and-two together the way you're implying, I think it's obvious that we did need God to say something (wait... aren't you meatheads arguing for it too???  lol).


    I don't understand what you mean? It's in the Judeo-Christian tradition as well. Of course if I told you why it was seen as filthy you wouldn't believe me and would go "ah those crazy Europeans with their polemics and Orientalism"
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #569 - June 21, 2010, 11:37 PM

    [2:171]
    The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.

    [7:179]
    We have created for Gehenna many jinn and men: they have hearts, but understand not with them; they have eyes, but perceive not with them; they have ears, but they hear not with them. They are like cattle; nay, rather they are further astray. Those -- they are the heedless.

    Sounds more like the zealots who make their beliefs inaccessible and unamenable to reason than those who disbelieve in Islam, as far as I can tell...


    Nah, it definitely sounds like he's talking about you and hupla.  grin12

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