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 Topic: Peace, All

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #180 - June 18, 2010, 08:50 AM

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    You are THIS close to being a complete Murtad since your views are 'heretical' in the eyes of nearly 95% of all Muslims of all sects. If you dont follow what Muhammad did (Sira and Hadith) you in big trouble.


    even if it were 99.99% of Muslims, why should I care? In fact, I AM playing by *their* rules and according to their rules, it is heresy to treat the work of men as the absolute truth, especialy when they contradict the Quran... so no, the scholars are no prophets and I am my own scholar.

    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #181 - June 18, 2010, 08:51 AM

    Good on ya, lad!  Afro

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #182 - June 18, 2010, 09:38 AM

    I think this is the first thread I actually read completely ... which is what prompted me to join this site ... Welcome Rasheed .
    But I must say you have already half-left Islam !,  judging by your attitude towards drawing of cartoons and islam , your thoughts about your christian wife's destiny etc... because I am a Hafiz and have knowledge of Bukhari , Muslim and Quran , and I can tell you the ahadeeth denouncing drawing cartoons are authentic , and no Muslim can REJECT any hadeeth .


    P.S @atheist.pk
    I LOLed ,ROFLed and LMAOed on seeing your signature (Urdu is my mother tongue) !!!

    I am intelligently designed by God, and I originated from a woman made from rib who ate an apple because of a snake in paradise...
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #183 - June 18, 2010, 09:42 AM

    I think this is the first thread I actually read completely ... which is what prompted me to join this site ... Welcome Rasheed .
    But I must say you have already half-left Islam !,  judging by your attitude towards drawing of cartoons and islam , your thoughts about your christian wife's destiny etc... because I am a Hafiz and have knowledge of Bukhari , Muslim and Quran , and I can tell you the ahadeeth denouncing drawing cartoons are authentic , and no Muslim can REJECT any hadeeth .


    P.S @atheist.pk
    I LOLed ,ROFLed and LMAOed on seeing your signature (Urdu is my mother tongue) !!!


    He didn't say he rejects all of the hadiths but only that which contradicts the Quran or that which is not confirmed by it. Not saying I agree but that's where he's coming from.

    Welcome btw Smiley

    And as mentioned please make an intro post.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #184 - June 18, 2010, 09:44 AM

    P.S @atheist.pk
    I LOLed ,ROFLed and LMAOed on seeing your signature (Urdu is my mother tongue) !!!

    Bohot khoob  grin12 hafiz kya aap aik saabiq-Musalman hain?  Tongue

    Welcome to the site Wink

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #185 - June 18, 2010, 09:49 AM

    yeah, I can see this hunger all over this thread! the poor dude just came in to say hi, and this thread evolved into 8 pages already!


    Debunker, be careful you might get into the habit of using the word evolution, you might even start believing in it!

    ...
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #186 - June 18, 2010, 09:50 AM

    He does though.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #187 - June 18, 2010, 09:55 AM

    Bohot khoob  grin12 hafiz kya aap aik saabiq-Musalman hain?  Tongue

    Welcome to the site Wink

    Thanks ...
    my intro is ont the way...

    haan , main ek saabiq musalman hun, main hafiz bhi hun, mere irtedad ke bare mein kisi ko kuch bhi nahin pata hai...

    I am intelligently designed by God, and I originated from a woman made from rib who ate an apple because of a snake in paradise...
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #188 - June 18, 2010, 09:56 AM

    Hey! You bloody foreigners English please!
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #189 - June 18, 2010, 09:57 AM

    MRasheed, hope you don't mind me using this image every now and then... Love it  Afro



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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #190 - June 18, 2010, 09:59 AM

    Thanks ...
    my intro is ont the way...

    haan , main ek saabiq musalman hun, main hafiz bhi hun, mere irtedad ke bare mein kisi ko kuch bhi nahin pata hai...

    Chashme bad'duur, Qibla.  Afro  dance

    Looking forward to your introduction and your journey from being Allah's Parrot to being an ExMuslim.  parrot
    Hey! You bloody foreigners English please!

    Angry  Cheesy

    I asked him if he was an ex-Muslim and hafiz said yes  grin12

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #191 - June 18, 2010, 09:59 AM

    MRasheed don't forget the comics thread please. I want to know your opinion on the genius of Alan Moore.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #192 - June 18, 2010, 10:00 AM

    Chashme bad'duur, Qibla.  Afro  dance

    Looking forward to your introduction and your journey from being Allah's Parrot to being an ExMuslim.  parrotAngry  Cheesy

    I asked him if he was an ex-Muslim and hafiz said yes  grin12


    lol please translate that one  dance
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #193 - June 18, 2010, 10:00 AM

    I could start posting in Australian. That'd fuck them up.  bunny

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #194 - June 18, 2010, 10:09 AM

    Yeah, you drongo!

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #195 - June 18, 2010, 10:10 AM

    I once wrote installation instructions for our software in Australian, just for fun.  dance

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #196 - June 18, 2010, 10:13 AM

    lol please translate that one  dance

     Cheesy In very old school Urdu, people sometimes respectfully address each other as 'Qibla' when talking.  Cheesy

    Chashm-e-Badd duur means 'may the evil eye be away from you'

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #197 - June 18, 2010, 10:34 AM

    Sure.  It is hard and you'll go up and down about it often, but it is all about trust... Sure I can.  Nothing hampers BELIEF.  

    Yup.  And fully live my life as if they are based on belief and trust.  Belief and trust have nothing (or very little) to do with reason and logic.


    Really, Rashid?

    Could you expand on the process of how one would choose to believe something that one finds unbelievable.

    Let's try a little test - and it won't get you in trouble with God Wink

    Could you have a go, now, and choose to believe that pigs can fly. Could you explain the process how you do it.

    I have a feeling that you mean one can choose to 'pretend', 'feign', or 'act'  like one genuinely believes (and I can see how some might do that if they thought there was some benefit/advantage for them in doing so). Or do you mean one can choose to research and then become convinced and a believer? Perhaps you could clarify.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #198 - June 18, 2010, 10:55 AM

    Really, Rashid?

    Could expand on the process of how one would choose to believe something that one finds unbelievable.

    Let's try a little test - and it won't get you in trouble with God Wink

    Could you have a go, now, trying to believe that pigs can fly and could you explain the process how you would do it.

    I have a feeling that you mean that one can choose to 'pretend', 'feign', or 'act' that you genuinely believe something (perhaps because they see a benefit/advantage in doing so). Or do you mean one can choose to research and then become convinced and a believer. Perhaps you could clarify.


    Actually Hassan, that was one of many arguments with myself trying to understand what is meant by "Faith" which I never understood. I still don't get what is faith?. Very approperiately, Arabs as you well know label that kind if believing as "Blind Faith". Afro

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #199 - June 18, 2010, 11:11 AM

    We hunger for muslim flesh. We are rarely fed.

     what is wrong to day dear BD.  you are  WRONG here and you WRONG there at  http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=10430.msg287715#msg287715   How can you say that to Zakir Joker?
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    Alright, then fuck him. He's doing it for the money and fame (and "paradise points")Tongue

     how can you fuck an UGLY goat with a beard that a Goat will hate that guy  any time. It doesn't matter whether you are a man, woman, gay or  goat    Cheesy Cheesy., Even with Burka on that Goat head I don't think you can do that.   Cheesy Cheesy


    And here also  you are wrong.,  .. No..no.. no you are NOT  hungry  for Muslim flesh., You are Hungry for Brains that is filled with 7th century stupid Islam..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #200 - June 18, 2010, 11:13 AM

    Grin
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #201 - June 18, 2010, 11:33 AM

    Hey! You bloody foreigners English please!

    Why being so rude ?

    I could start posting in Australian. That'd fuck them up.  bunny

    Is Australian any diff. form of English Huh?

    I am intelligently designed by God, and I originated from a woman made from rib who ate an apple because of a snake in paradise...
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #202 - June 18, 2010, 11:34 AM

    Why being so rude ?



    lol i iz kidding
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #203 - June 18, 2010, 11:43 AM

    Hafiz: officially it isn't but it has its own slang and figures of speech that you don't find in UK English.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #204 - June 18, 2010, 11:48 AM

    It is normal to experience doubt, Prince.


    It's not doubt, it's disbelief.

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    Just don't let that doubt affect how you live your life.  Do as He says to do, and that will be the proof enough that you believed.  


    No, that will only be proof of greed and fear.

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    At least enough to get into paradise.  


    That isn't enough to get into paradise. Without belief good deeds are meaningless to Allah.

    And We will proceed to what they have done of deeds, so We shall render them as scattered floating dust. (23:25).

    You yourself have said rejecting him earns  you eternity in hell. What of the hypocrites who follow Islam but do not believe it? What did Muhammad say about them? Doomed to hell? I think so.

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    In the Scriptures He says that if you take steps towards Him, He will take steps towards you.  


    With every step I take towards him he seems more vile.

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    Go through the motions and give Him the benefit of the doubt... even though you feel the strong sense of doubt...


    Like I said, it is not doubt, it's disbelief. Why on earth should I strive for something I don't believe in? There are a million different religions I could follow, why this one,  what makes this one special, what makes it right?

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    and He very well may help you strengthen the belief in your heart.


    How kind of him.

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    Just trust Him and give Him the benfit of the doubt that He IS real and His Word IS true, and let Him do the rest.


    Why should I? How can I trust him if I believe he doesn't exist? How can I give him the benefit of the doubt when I have no doubt, I fully believe he isn't real nor is his 'word' true.

    Again, no matter how much you try to avoid it, it all comes down to belief, you have to believe he exists, otherwise why on earth would anybody follow Islam? "I testify that there is no god but Allah' that is the first tenet of Islam. I cannot do that. Not out of choice, but because he decided that my life would play out like this, that I would lose belief. And now he's going to punish me forever for it? Give me a break.

    It seems simple to you because you were born into a Muslim family, but to someone, say, born to Hindus, why would HE blindly follow if he does not believe in islam, if it doesn't make sense to him, if it doesn't seem like the true religion, if he doesn't believe in Allah, through no choice, through no fault of his own? Just think about it.

    Edit: Could you please define blind faith for the purposes of the discussion?

    And you could also tell me why God gave me intellect and reason and then decided to test my 'blind faith'?

    Edit 2: You still haven't told me when you chose to believe Allah exists.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #205 - June 18, 2010, 11:53 AM

    My disbelief started when I couldn't say the second part of the shahada, Muhammad ruined Islam for me Grin
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #206 - June 18, 2010, 12:24 PM

    There are many jobs and social positions in life that suck.  Heck life in general can suck.  But remember we are tested by both adversity and prosperity in tunrs to determine the strength of our faith.  Slavery is an opportunity for both the slaver and the enslaved to rise to the occasion and determine the mettle of our faith in God.



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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #207 - June 18, 2010, 12:30 PM

    Islam makes slavery a career ladder. Stairway to heaven Grin
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #208 - June 18, 2010, 12:41 PM

    Islam makes slavery a career ladder. .......

    Huh!  that is a good one..

    Indeed Islam makes career ladder to brainless jobless bums and there are plenty in Islam.

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #209 - June 18, 2010, 12:47 PM

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    There are many jobs and social positions in life that suck.  Heck life in general can suck.  But remember we are tested by both adversity and prosperity in tunrs to determine the strength of our faith.  Slavery is an opportunity for both the slaver and the enslaved to rise to the occasion and determine the mettle of our faith in God.

    I can just imagine a Southern plantation owner saying that to his black slaves a couple of hundred years ago. No need for emancipation, boys. This shit is good for you. Afro

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
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