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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #150 - June 21, 2010, 10:09 PM
    Zakir Naik doesn't talk to the media (he admits this himself).  He only talks on HIS terms.  A BBC radio station tried to get him on air on friday when he got banned but they couldn't.
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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #151 - June 21, 2010, 11:53 PM
    This is hilarious! (especially the 3rd video). Cheesy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj5HCU7kJw4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtd9zXLM6EA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWh3s-jFcTQ
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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #152 - June 22, 2010, 12:26 AM
    I found the video where Zakir Naik says that if you eat pig you'll behave like a pig.  4:50mins onwards...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwAsCsFyBVI
    .
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #153 - June 22, 2010, 01:16 AM
    Quote from: Q-Man on June 21, 2010, 09:49 PM
    He talks about all that shit as if it's a bad thing.

     Cheesy Cheesy
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #154 - June 22, 2010, 05:37 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on June 18, 2010, 10:14 PM
    Not to muslims he isnt.

    His 911 denial, support for Bin Laden and support of the death penalty for apostates is music to their ears.  In fact his has reached hero status amongst most first generation muslims in the UK.

    The governments intervention shows that such views are not acceptable here - hopefully that will send his worshippers a message too.


    I don't know Zakir Naik that well, but..does he support Bin Laden?

    As I recall, I think he said he wasn't aware of politics as a layman, so he wasn't sure of Bin Laden and would only support him if he found Bin Laden to be fighting to free people from injustice.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #155 - June 22, 2010, 05:47 AM
    He didn't say 'fighting to free from injustices', he said 'if america is fighting america the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, then i'm with him. Every muslim should be a terrorist'.
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #156 - June 22, 2010, 05:50 AM
    Quote from: wizzie on June 22, 2010, 05:37 AM
    I don't know Zakir Naik that well, but..does he support Bin Laden?

    As I recall, I think he said he wasn't aware of politics as a layman, so he wasn't sure of Bin Laden and would only support him if he found Bin Laden to be fighting to free people from injustice.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.



    naik is deluded and in denial. in the end he is a hard core fundamentalist and he does sympathize with the Taliban and al qaeda. he continuously denies osama's involvement in 9/11 even though osama admitted it. he is all about conspiracy theories.
    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #157 - June 22, 2010, 05:51 AM
    Quote from: @li on June 22, 2010, 05:47 AM
    He didn't say 'fighting to free from injustices', he said 'if america is fighting america the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, then i'm with him. Every muslim should be a terrorist'.


    yea that was a pretty stupid statement he made. he could have preached peace like thinks islam does but nooooooo.
    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #158 - June 23, 2010, 01:57 PM
    Zakir a.k.a the Fucker has been banned from Canada too now
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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #159 - June 23, 2010, 04:59 PM
    Take beer!  cheers

    He's not very "logical" now is he...
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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #160 - June 23, 2010, 06:14 PM
    Banning him is just going to lionise his image, and make him even more appealing to paranoid Islamic minds.
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #161 - June 23, 2010, 06:19 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on June 23, 2010, 01:57 PM
    Zakir a.k.a the Fucker has been banned from Canada too now
    Ozonedance


    Now if we can just get him banned from India....
    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #162 - June 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
    Oh come on, does he really deserve to loose his citizenship simply because of his (horrid) views?
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #163 - June 23, 2010, 07:01 PM
    Quote from: Saathiya on June 23, 2010, 06:19 PM
    Now if we can just get him banned from India....

    Ermmm... If he's banned from his home country, where is he going to live?  whistling2
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #164 - June 23, 2010, 07:13 PM
    Quote from: MrSilly on June 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
    Oh come on, does he really deserve to loose his citizenship simply because of his (horrid) views?


    Yes.
    The fact that he can twist words around saying "every muslim should be terrorist because...."...get this... "a policeman is a terrorist to robbers and murderers" and get applause for this stupidity is dangerous.  
    He deceives the people.  India is politically unstable.  It is also a poor country where many people (including muslims) do not know how to read or write so they turn to these "scholars" to help "guide" them in life.  Zakir supports OBL and praises him.  I mean come on!  To us it's a no brainer but to the gullible it's a dangerous game.  A game that could cost lives and send the country in bombings everyday.  I dont care that wants to think the earth is flat or some bullshit it's him praising terrorists and saying muslims should be terrorists.  Comparing terrorists to policemen!!  Give me a fucking break! He is a menace to society.
    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #165 - June 23, 2010, 07:14 PM
    Quote from: ateapotist on June 23, 2010, 07:01 PM
    Ermmm... If he's banned from his home country, where is he going to live?  whistling2


    I'm sure the Saudis will give him a warm welcome or any one of these "humane" gulf countries.
    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #166 - June 23, 2010, 07:23 PM
    Quote from: Saathiya on June 23, 2010, 07:13 PM
    Yes.
    The fact that he can twist words around saying "every muslim should be terrorist because...."...get this... "a policeman is a terrorist to robbers and murderers" and get applause for this stupidity is dangerous.  
    He deceives the people.  India is politically unstable.  It is also a poor country where many people (including muslims) do not know how to read or write so they turn to these "scholars" to help "guide" them in life.  Zakir supports OBL and praises him.  I mean come on!  To us it's a no brainer but to the gullible it's a dangerous game.  A game that could cost lives and send the country in bombings everyday.  I dont care that wants to think the earth is flat or some bullshit it's him praising terrorists and saying muslims should be terrorists.  Comparing terrorists to policemen!!  Give me a fucking break! He is a menace to society.



    So you're clearly are against freedom of speech.
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #167 - June 23, 2010, 07:26 PM
    If anyone believes peace TV is about peace then he will believe anything! Yes, in a way it is about peace--- for his stooges who are lulled by the nonsense that they hear.


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #168 - June 23, 2010, 07:38 PM
    Freedom of speech is very important.  Many countries invoke hate speech laws to silence political dissent etc.

    I tend to draw the line at 'inciting violence'.  That should be illegal.  However, I'm not too dogmatic about it, and I'm prepared to listen to any other arguments if the socio-economic situation is not ideal. Smiley


    Also, regarding absurd views that are not downright dangerous, I think they can be defeated using 'conversational intolerance' i.e. ridiculing them. Smiley
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #169 - June 23, 2010, 07:41 PM
    Quote from: MrSilly on June 23, 2010, 07:23 PM
    So you're clearly are against freedom of speech.


    Freedom of Speech my ass!  
     There is freedom of speech/expression and there is calling for muslims to be terrorists. Freedom to criticize is one thing to incite violence is another.  There IS a difference.
     Now muslims are complaining that everyone thinks they're terrorists but how many of them complain about these "scholars" who say they should be terrorists?  Now what if I was one of these "scholars" and say that, "all non-muslims should be terrorists because a policeman is a terrorist to a robber therefore all non-muslims should be terrorists?  How would you feel as a muslim?  Should I say, "suck it up, I have freedom of speech?"  
    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #170 - June 23, 2010, 07:51 PM
    Quote from: Saathiya on June 23, 2010, 07:14 PM
    I'm sure the Saudis will give him a warm welcome or any one of these "humane" gulf countries.

    im not soo sure about that  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #171 - June 23, 2010, 08:00 PM
    Quote from: Saathiya
    Freedom of Speech my ass!  
     There is freedom of speech/expression and there is calling for muslims to be terrorists. Freedom to criticize is one thing to incite violence is another.  There IS a difference.


    Firstly, the implications of calling for muslims to be "terrorists" isn't as black and white as you imagine, because it all depends and what he means by terrorist (and if you read the context in which he said it, it is all the more ambiguous). I think you'd find it very hard to win a prosecutation of Mr Naik on incitement grounds.

    Secondly, by your logic, the Apartheid government in South Africa had every right to persecute Nelson Mandela, since he supported terrorism, and incited South Africans to become terrorists.

    Thirdly, also by your logic, a great many media outlets in the West would be banned (the majority in anglo-saxon countries), since they all caled for and supported the war in Iraq.

    Quote from: Saathiya
    Now muslims are complaining that everyone thinks they're terrorists but how many of them complain about these "scholars" who say they should be terrorists?


    You're talking about Muslims as if they are one homogenous group all with identical opinions. I think you might find that different Muslims complain about people thinking they're terrorists, compared to the Muslims that have wet dreams about Mr Naik.

    Quote from: Saathiya
    Now what if I was one of these "scholars" and say that, "all non-muslims should be terrorists because a policeman is a terrorist to a robber therefore all non-muslims should be terrorists?  How would you feel as a muslim?  Should I say, "suck it up, I have freedom of speech?"


    Right, so it's a race to the bottom, with the bottom being Islamic morality? Good luck mate
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #172 - June 23, 2010, 08:08 PM
    Quote from: MrSilly on June 23, 2010, 06:14 PM
    Banning him is just going to lionise his image, and make him even more appealing to paranoid Islamic minds.

     Mr. Silly is right here., He shopuld have not been banned to enter London, But He should have been called for an interview at London airport and show him some of his videos such as thes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMAZR8YIhxI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM2Mu_wJSq0

    If he has  same opinions still  at this time and age, he should be sent back to his native country AFTER PAYING that airport entry fees and the application fees at London Airport.
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #173 - June 23, 2010, 11:43 PM
    Zakir Naik is getting desperate now, or he's just being a clever, cunning, duplicitous twat.

    He's trying to distance himself from the statements he made about supporting the death penalty for apostates.  According to him, these are only from youtube clips which are "manipulated" and any Top Dick and Harry can manipulate youtube clips...  Roll Eyes

    This is a prime example of a Muslim prothlesizers being deliberately dishonest.  FFS we have video footage of him saying these things but he's still trying to weasel himself out of it.

    He mentions this at 1:45mins...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjLKwxzvZ1E
    .
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #174 - June 24, 2010, 12:06 AM
    He's just being a duplicitous twat.  Afro
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #175 - June 24, 2010, 12:19 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on June 24, 2010, 12:06 AM
    He's just being a duplicitous twat.  Afro

      twat?? That guy could make someone to win or loose the election in London in certain constituency .. Any he is appealing against British ban.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ic7BjZU--3p8xaapMSwk71nts__w

    This time they should give the visa and let him come to London and show him his face in videos., then send him back to his country  from airport..

    But osmanthus  some one donated 26 million dollars to take care of me




    http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=107224
    Quote
    a beloved Chihuahua whose eccentric owner bequeathed her a three-million-dollar trust fund -- a move now being contested by the late heiress' only son, local media reported.

    Heiress Gail Posner left her pooch (which she often decked out in a diamond necklace) a trust fund, and another 27 million dollars to the staff of her Miami beach mansion so that they can get by (rent-free) while caring for her pets until they die.

    In contrast, Posner tossed a bone to her estranged son Bret Carr: a one million dollar inheritance.

    huh! That RASCAL GOT million dollars of my money., I hate him..


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #176 - June 24, 2010, 12:25 AM
    Bloody chihuahua. It's just not fair. You deserve that money. Wink

    Anyway I agree that exposing Naik is better than banning him. I'd be cool with letting him into the UK on the condition that he consents to a one hour televised interview with Zeinab Badawi. They could ship his bones home after she'd finished with him.  Cheesy
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #177 - June 24, 2010, 12:33 AM
    If it wasn't for the anonymity issue I would absolutely love to have a debate with Zakir Naik, or any Muslim apologist for that matter.  I would undoubtedly obliterate them and shatter their faith.
    .
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #178 - June 24, 2010, 12:42 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on June 24, 2010, 12:25 AM
    Bloody chihuahua. It's just not fair. You deserve that money. Wink

    Anyway I agree that exposing Naik is better than banning him. I'd be cool with letting him into the UK on the condition that he consents to a one hour televised interview with Zeinab Badawi. They could ship his bones home after she'd finished with him.  Cheesy

    Any Woman news reader who happen to be Muslim will PUT THAT NAIK GOAT IN TO BURKA.. Mishal Husain is equally good.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYW-s3MOXU

    The GOAT SAYS This about women clothe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQY4PEo7kdQ

    Screw your Quran, Screw your bible and screw your Pagan books

    Baboon  

    But I  like this women..



    That is mother of believers according to an intellectual Muslim.  I wish I was there after the death of father of believers to marry  her and give wonderful life what it should be for woman whose husband dies when she is young...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Zakir Naik: Banned from UK
     Reply #179 - June 26, 2010, 02:14 AM
    Why the hell is Mahesh Bhatt going out of his way to support this clown Zakir Naik?  wacko

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291OGwgzPLM
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