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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #90 - August 08, 2010, 02:46 AM

    I'm on anti-depressants and sometimes I feel depressed for no reason. As soon as I left Islam, my mood became better. However, sometimes I feel ugly. When I get into my suicidal moods, I write.

    Is your grammar defective? Just askin'.


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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #91 - August 09, 2010, 01:37 PM

    Wow, long thread with some good advice.

    Oh dear ... depression ...



    I’m not sure if I’ve been depressed before, but I’ve been very, very upset/anxious/sad/lonely at two/three times several years ago.

    Apart from the general advice (below), I would suggest thinking about what negative aspects is the root cause of the depressive feelings. Is someone controlling you? Are you feeling pressured by your parents? Do you lack social interactions? Have you just broken up? Are you embarking on a new chapter in your life?

    Once the root causes have been identified – I think it is a matter of thinking positively and optimistically. Optimistic people live longer, are better connected and are more successful. Being optimistic, most of the time that is!

    Let me think now ...



    For example:
    Instead of: Someone is controlling me. I’m such a pushover.
    Think rather: This is a good opportunity to learn how to handle and stand my ground.

    Instead of: I’m lacking social interactions. No one wants to hang around with me.
    Think rather: This is a good opportunity to find ways to meet new friends. If I can do it now, I can do it again and organically grow a circle of friends whenever I need to.

    Instead of: I was just dumped, I’ll die alone, no one will ever love me.
    Think rather: Relationships are a continual process. It wasn’t her/him or me: it was us. Let’s think what went wrong and use it to discover someone who’s better suited for me in the future. My parents and ancestors attracted a mate, then chances are I can too.

    Instead of: I don’t know how things are going to turn out. Life is uncertain and I’m worried about the future.
    Think rather: The future is what I will create it to be. I will do this by planning, organising and taking opportunities. If other people can be successful, there is nothing stopping me. I am confident in life’s uncertainties. Where there is uncertainty, there is opportunity in doing something I’ve never thought of.

    So ... you get the picture. Life is full of setbacks and rejections. But even the most successful people have failed in life, from businessmen to sports athletes.

    So, apart from the frame of mind in combatting depressive tendencies, other more daily routines for the mind as mentioned by others include (to my opinion):
    - listening to good music
    - laughing, even if it means watching an episode of Friends!
    - exercise: at least 4 times a week to get the endorphins in
    - staying in touch with people/organising some social time/not being too lonely
    - reading a good novel
    - embark on a new hobby/accomplish a project (learn an instrument, run a marathon, join a charity)

    One I haven’t tried but would suggest is keeping a pet.

    Aren't we a nice bunch of CEMBers here helping each other out?
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #92 - August 09, 2010, 01:50 PM

    good advice

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #93 - August 09, 2010, 02:05 PM

     ahh depression
    I handle depression by either competitive sports so i can let out the dark energy

    or

    comedy movies :p

    also sometimes heavy metal

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #94 - August 09, 2010, 04:20 PM

     Huh?



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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #95 - August 10, 2010, 09:48 AM


    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Once the root causes have been identified – I think it is a matter of thinking positively and optimistically. Optimistic people live longer, are better connected and are more successful. Being optimistic, most of the time that is!

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    So, apart from the frame of mind in combatting depressive tendencies, other more daily routines for the mind as mentioned by others include (to my opinion):
    - listening to good music
    - laughing, even if it means watching an episode of Friends!
    - exercise: at least 4 times a week to get the endorphins in
    - staying in touch with people/organising some social time/not being too lonely
    - reading a good novel
    - embark on a new hobby/accomplish a project (learn an instrument, run a marathon, join a charity)

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    Thanks, I love the pictures Smiley I do like watching comedy (good comedy, my type of humour) and I havn't for a while.

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #96 - August 10, 2010, 03:00 PM


    Guys like him can be helpful!


                                         



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #97 - August 10, 2010, 08:47 PM

    An appropriate video for this thread.

    This is a youtube link: http://bit.ly/bqWPuB

    (I've not linked directly otherwise the image of the video will give away the key message!  Wink )
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #98 - August 10, 2010, 09:08 PM

    Good advice there, HighOctane. Afro (in that long post).

    For me, I feel the big one is simply: being yourself. Smiley i.e. not feeling pressured to conform to certain societal standards. Smiley

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #99 - August 11, 2010, 12:42 PM

    You're welcome/thanks guys!

    Hey Stardust, those pics are from a really cute book called Tomorrow: Adventures in an uncertain world.

    You can preview the book here.  Smiley
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #100 - August 13, 2010, 07:17 AM

    These are beautiful inspirational videos:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ZpiAGVJN0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOmN9P079n8



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #101 - October 17, 2010, 05:14 AM

    You don't handle depression... you fuckin' rape it viciously 'til you stop crying, and it starts bleeding.

    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #102 - December 18, 2010, 12:26 AM

    J.K Rowling once said in an Oprah interview (hope ur a Potter fan and not team Twifart  Afro ) that depression is he tottal opposite of sadness (not accurate quote). She said that it is ok to feel sad. Infact, it can be someimes relieving. Sadness is a feeling, she said, whereas depression is not feeling at all   Cry . Depression makes you feel empty and hollow with no reason whatsoever. Being depressed is when u get sick of life.
     And I am going through this for a long time. It is more sort of going into a trance: at a moment I am all cheerful and  dance and the next I go, God I wanna die and start pulling my hair (not using metaphors here).
     So concerning ur second question, Yes, it is tottaly normal to feel depressed with no reason. This is depression it self.
     About the next one, well I dunno about u but this is what I do:
     1- I read, read, and after that I read and last but not least I reade a little bit more. Reading makes u slip away from his hidious world, and live thousands of lives.
    2- I write: writing is like pouring all ur anger and hatered at someone  finmad u despise and make u go ahhh cool2 . It happened that one day, when I was really furustrated of God, I took a pen and and a notebook , and I blackmailed him  yes . I wrote all the things I hated about him and I threw it all out> After that I was a little bit more  Smiley
    3- I listen to music. But listen to the cheery and calm ones, cuz some music may make u alot worse. ( I am always attracted to the weepy ones, i dunno y but...)
    4- Have some good feelings about ur self. I would recommend u to read The secret if ur a grown up, or the secret to teen power if u r obviously a teen, but don't follow them as if they r the bible, cuz some of the stuff there r just nutty Afro
     Anyways, good luck to u and wish me luck too sloshed                           

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #103 - March 17, 2011, 08:10 AM

    Hey I know how you feel :( I've been suicidal, but I guess it passed, when I realized if I was going to kill myself I was going to make the people who wanted me dead win

    All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man.
    - J Krishnamurti
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #104 - March 17, 2011, 12:49 PM

    Hey FreedomToChoos, if you ever feel suicidal again, come here and talk to us. I am very serious about it.

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #105 - March 18, 2011, 11:01 AM

    I will Smiley It was something that lasted for 2 weeks and I'm so glad I didn't do anything silly Smiley

    All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man.
    - J Krishnamurti
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #106 - March 23, 2011, 12:50 AM

    Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
    And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.

    And how else can it be?
    The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
    Is not the cup that holds your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?
    And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?

    When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
    When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.

    Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."
    But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
    Together they come, and when one sits, alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.

    Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.
    Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.
    When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.
    ~ Kahlil Gibran

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #107 - June 21, 2011, 12:54 AM

    Sorry to hear that you, and anyone here suffers from depression, I used to suffer from depression.

    I suffered bad in my early teens and twenties, but now I can honestly say that every year of my life is happier. Based on my experience, and hindsight here are a few suggestions.

    1st suggestion

    Based on personal experience I would advise spending at least 10-15 minutes a day practising the skills required for happiness.

    Happiness is a skill, meaning an ability acquired through practice. People train these skills consciously or unconsciously, if you're depressed then you probably need to spend time practising the skills consciously.

    Practices like...

    writing down 50 things that you're grateful to have in your life past or present.

    writing down 50 things you like about yourself or things you've done.

    saying "I love you" to yourself in the mirror.

    It doesn't matter what you practice but the point is if you identify the thinking patterns of happy people, they will have internal dialogue habits that you can develop with conscious practice.


    2nd suggestion

    Based on personal experience it's good to identify what areas of human needs aren't being fulfilled in your life, and try to find a means to fulfil them.

    Tony Robbins (his theory of humans needs is concise and practical IMO)

    1 Certainty/Comfort.

    We all want comfort. And much of this comfort comes from certainty. Of course there is no ABSOLUTE certainty, but we want certainty the car will start, the water will flow from the tap when we turn it on and the currency we use will hold its value.

    2 Variety.

    At the same time we want certainty, we also crave variety. Paradoxically, there needs to be enough UNcertainty to provide spice and adventure in our lives.

    3 Significance.

     Deep downwe all want to be important. We want our life to have meaning and significance. I can imagine no worse a death than to think my life didn't matter.

    4 Connection/Love.

    It would be hard to argue against the need for love. We want to feel part of a community. We want to be cared for and cared about.

    5 Growth.

    There could be some people who say they don't want to grow, but I think they're simply fearful of doing so—or perhaps NOT doing so. To become better, to improve our skills, to stretch and excel may be more evident in some than others, but it's there.

    6 Contribution.

    The desire to contribute something of value—to help others, to make the world a better place than we found it is in all of us.

     

    Here are some great suggestions (dude has a degree in psychology, and is very much into the applied side of things)....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qBJesRUVg



    3rd suggestion
     
    Many depressed people normally have unresolved childhood trauma issues. This is gonna sound nuts and may seem, like I'm advocating psuedo science, but this is honestly helping me with emotional issues...

    http://t.co/k02lVEb  

    If you're not interested in the 3rd suggestion it's cool, the other stuff is grounded in science and is effective.

    Final note

    Professional help is usually invaluable, if you have the means. A good therapist (or a good comforter) will make you feel emotionally visible, which is a very powerful healing in and of itself. I personally began to heal when I lived with a muslim in Malaysia for a month and he made me feel like my thoughts and emotions mattered. If you can find someone like that, it will help tremendously.
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #108 - August 25, 2011, 09:46 AM

    I don't deal with depression.

    I face it and wait for it to pass

    "The words that oscillate between nonsense and supreme meaning are the oldest and truest." - C.G. Jung
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #109 - September 13, 2011, 08:50 PM

    I go through spurts of depression and joy so very often, sometimes over trivial things. I am beginning to get the creepy feeling that maybe, depression and general feeling of melancholy has just become a big part of me that I enjoy it in some weird way.

    Maybe. That is a scary and saddening thought (har! har!).

    All I know is that the emptiness is real. And though I feel lonely, I actually prefer loneliness.

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #110 - September 13, 2011, 08:55 PM

    i cry when im depressed, thats 99% of the time everyday

    Bazinga!
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #111 - September 13, 2011, 09:15 PM

    Apart from clinical depression most other forms of depression can be overcome by change of scenary and engaging in social activity and exercise.

    Meloncholy may be something different as it linked to creativity....

    Google creativity and depression.


    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #112 - September 13, 2011, 09:33 PM

    Real men don't get depressed. *flexes*


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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #113 - September 13, 2011, 09:39 PM

    I go through spurts of depression and joy so very often, sometimes over trivial things. I am beginning to get the creepy feeling that maybe, depression and general feeling of melancholy has just become a big part of me that I enjoy it in some weird way.

    Maybe. That is a scary and saddening thought (har! har!).

    All I know is that the emptiness is real. And though I feel lonely, I actually prefer loneliness.


    I dont know about liking loneliness.

    But many prefer solitude.

    The difference between them in my definition is this :

    Loneliness - is when you desire the company of others but have none.

    Solitude - is when you have company of others but you choose to be alone.

    I prefer solitude myself  Smiley

    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #114 - September 13, 2011, 09:47 PM

    depression is a problem when you stop functioning and the depression prevents you from living your life properly. Such as not eating, self-destructive behaviour etc. Otherwise, I find that we all go through depression occasionally in our lives. The important thing to remember is that depression, like everything else is transient and it doesnt have to define you 24/7. In fact labeling yourself as depressed in the first place implies that its some sort of permanent mental state which it usually (although sometimes it can be for individuals with chemical imbalances) isn't.

    so just let it pass or cull the thoughts and things which cause depression (even if it's your mum) if it gets in the way of living.

    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #115 - September 13, 2011, 09:48 PM

    I dont know about liking loneliness.

    But many prefer solitude.

    The difference between them in my definition is this :

    Loneliness - is when you desire the company of others but have none.

    Solitude - is when you have company of others but you choose to be alone.

    I prefer solitude myself  Smiley


    I prefer solitude usually as well.

    "If intelligence is feminine... I would want that mine would, in a resolute movement, come to resemble an impious woman."
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #116 - September 13, 2011, 10:18 PM

    Good distinction.

    I meant solitude then.

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #117 - September 13, 2011, 10:32 PM

    which is why ill one day snap and start screaming like a mad woman while stabbing random people on the street  Grin


    That's hot.

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  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #118 - September 13, 2011, 11:01 PM

    Gladfly said >>>>>>>Google creativity and depression.<<<<<<

    Google creativity and bi-polarity.  Smiley

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: How do you handle depression?
     Reply #119 - October 25, 2011, 05:57 PM

    A friend of mine has just got off Prozac (which made her worse) and started taking a B vitamin called Inositol. She swears by it.

    I've no personal experience to share with you, I'm afraid, as my modest lows are usually sorted by a few drinks and a good laugh. Time helps too.
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