Did you not read what was written. Menses develops 2-2.5 years after breast development. Menses is one of the later stages of puberty.
"The onset of the menstrual cycles (menarche) begins about 2 to 2 1/2 years after the
onset of breast development."
I'll admit I have no idea how long it takes for breasts to develop, or what they look like after however many years of development.
[/quote]1. Are we really being honest with ourselves here.[/quote]
Yes.
2. many grown women have don't have an hourglass figure. Waist to hip ratio is due to bodyfat in the hips/thighs. The article mentioned bodyfat. Maybe you should read it again.
There's nothing relevant about body fat that I can see.
From wiki, "During this period [after menses], also in response to rising levels of estrogen, the lower half of the pelvis widens. This prepares the body for the time when she will give birth by enlarging the birth canal. Fat tissue increases to a greater percentage of the body composition than in males, especially in the typical female distribution of breasts, hips, and thighs. This produces the typical female body shape. Also, the fat goes to the buttocks of a girl, giving their buttocks more shape and curve."
This all happens while her body is still developing to the point where she has a regular menstrual cycle, which can take more than 2 years after the first one.
3, could you please mention more of them if there are lots?
*thinks back to sex-ed classes*. Well there are some ^^ there, and erm, hair in various places (armpits etc)? :/
hotlink fail. and showing a picture of a 9 year old really has no bearing on what aisha looked like.
Yeh, I said we have no idea what Aisha looked like, but I can make judgements based on the 9 year olds I've seen. I could not magine being sexually attracted to them, at 19, never mind 50-odd. [/quote]
This is exactly my point. You would rather lie and slander someone than make intellectually honest arguments. (this is the behaviour of many ex muslims). This may be due to lack of knowledge in regards to the religion.
Not really, I can't remember using the Mo was a pedo line when seriously criticising Islam. But people use it here and I don't mind because 1) I couldn't care less and 2) It's damn funny.
He would have wanted to marry her when she reached puberty ss did every other arab at the time. (and the rest of the world.)
Evidence?
Puberty is a process, there is a massive difference between what girls look like at the begining, during, and after puberty.
This girl apparently gave birth, so she had obviously had her first period. If a 50-odd year old man told me he wanted to fuck her I would call him a pedo and a sick bastard, no question.
Haha you can believe whatever you want but if you don't think that 12 year olds are having sex you are crazy. I really don't want to waste my time proving this to you either.
...... I was kidding.....
And like I said, there is a differnce between 2 12 year olds having sex, and a 50-odd year old man having sex with a 9 year old. But I really don't want to waste my time proving this to you.....
[/quote]I agree with your views. I was referring to a relationship i had WHEN I WAS 12.
But if you call say a older man has a problem if he marries a 12 year old you are basically saying that
most men in history are sexual deviants. (i provided proof of this practice...I could provide more if you want)[/quote]
So?
PS: it seems when you were confronted with rational arguments that you couldn't answer you began to get irrational and act hostile. You are throwing intellectual honesty out the window due to your emotions.
I am perfectly calm.
Topic: Evolution and Morality