ok this post may seem a little fucked up and I'm not trying to start a debate just hear your views. Now to give you a little background before I became Muslim I lived a pretty materialistic life. i didn't care about religion or morals. The people I hung out with really didn't talk about this stuff.
After I became Muslim you obviously know what i believed but it was during this time that I first started thinking about evolution seriously. I always rejected it when I was Muslim because it basically said we were animals and thats basically what drives us. food, shelter, reproduction. Our basic mission in life was to make sure our genes were passed on to the next generation.
Now I take it most (if not all of you) believe in evolution. Survival of the fittest. but you guys also seem to believe in a world view that somewhat contradicts "survival of the fittest". It almost seems that people who try and do exatcly what humans are supposed to (pass on their genes in the best way possible) are deemed to be immoral.
Ghengis Khan would be a perfect example of this. I read that 1 out of 5 chinese people have his genes in their body. He would be the ultimate example of someone who made sure their genes lived on. But he did this through rape murder ect. "survival of the fittest" but people will criticize Muhammad for his immorality but he didn't do 1/10th of the shit genghis khan did.
So how is ghenghis khan (or muhammad) immoral for basically doing what humans are supposed to do? If our ancestors didn't do similar things we would not be here today. Animals aren't evil for fighting each other. Animals more or less force themselves on their mate and it's not considered evil.
People talk about all the evil religion has caused but it seems darwinism has caused even more because it has spawned all kinds of thing like nazi eugenics ect. which make total sense in relation to evolution if you think about it. (i.e killing retarded people, people with birth defects ect..)
So how can we say the morals of a certain religion are wrong when we are basically just animals and anything goes. Animals can't be evil. There is preadtor and prey. But now if you are seen as predatory against other humans this is frowned upon. It seems these new age world views only serve to keep weaker genes in the pool and actually protect inferior humans despite this being contrary to "survival of the fittest".
Shouldn't we kinda try to live our lives like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EII'm just asking this because i really dont know what to believe after Islam.
you know, i thought about that for a long time, i think that as evolved animals we have developed our consciences, that's why we can deduct by ourselves what is right or wrong and don't need no books doing that for us. talking about survival of the fittest, i think it happens in everywhere, in islam, the modern world, everywhere but it is replaced by other values than strength like:money, power, knowledge,etc...
what i disapprove with religions is that they claims to be good and peacfull, but are ruled by the same laws, it is hypocrisy.
Topic: Evolution and Morality