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  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #330 - July 01, 2010, 01:14 PM
    Since when was DigDug promoted to Global Moderator ?
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  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #331 - July 01, 2010, 01:16 PM
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #332 - July 01, 2010, 01:18 PM
    i think the mods are doing mischevous things to his account
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #333 - July 01, 2010, 01:19 PM
    Eh? Huh?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #334 - July 01, 2010, 01:22 PM
    when his avatar was changed, for a few minutes, 'global moderator' and those fancy blue stars appeared above the avatar
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #335 - July 01, 2010, 01:26 PM
    Ok.  Its gone now.   Smiley
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #336 - July 01, 2010, 02:12 PM
    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!! In one thread he said rape is only immoral because 'people don't like it', a 53 year old man fucking a nine year old is ok, he didn't give a shit abut haiti or 9/11, and he's never given to charity. This guy is fun. Unban him nao!
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #337 - July 02, 2010, 09:10 PM
    In the kernel of the universe as it centrifuges justice is served along its spirals. Revenge tastes best as cold-cuts.

    He cast his curse, and I cast mine. He cast his stone, and I cast mine. Cast out the cat by the hind legs! Women have been hamburgered under the buns of men. Whence do we take a bite? Here he was thrown out, a man who dared to call me a troll. And along he himself was one!

    Evolution provides us with an understanding of our origins. They are not lowly, for what is our frame of reference? The self-reverence of old men? Nay indeed! Hogwash!!

  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #338 - July 04, 2010, 05:46 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on July 01, 2010, 12:04 AM
    *In theory* all our morals should be based on evolution -

    Why?


    Quote from: abuyunus2 on July 01, 2010, 12:04 AM
    there is no way round this as the theory currently claims it is responsible for all that we are: only morals useful from an evolutionary point of veiw would exist withtin us, according to the theory itself. Every feeling we have, every emotion we go through should potentially be explained using the theory. For example the fact that we care about each others survival is down to 'group survival' according to some models - and this gives us an evolutionary benefit in helping propagate our genes.

    I don't agree with that. It's not only about survival. Love, empathy, friendship, altruism, social ties are not beneficial to the evolutionary process yet they are a fundamental part of our morality.


    Quote from: abuyunus2 on July 01, 2010, 12:04 AM
    The question I am asking is can evolution really account for all the in depth morality and emotions that humans posess and are capable of.

    The evolution of our morality should not be attributed only biological reasons but to sociological ones as well.


    Quote from: abuyunus2 on July 01, 2010, 12:04 AM
    If you are suggesting that some parts of our morality did not result from evolution - then where else did they come from?

    My opinion is that in the early period of humanity (scattered hunter-gatherers communities), our morality was based on the survival of the fittest. Everybody was concerned about himself, his partner, and his immediate band. But with the introduction of agriculture, the structure of inter-human relationships evolved because under the new economic order society operated best in groups not individuals. Members of the group only cooperate with those who also cooperate and exclude those who do not. Bands became tribes then states then empires....etc. And with the progress, the empathy and altruism extended from one's partner to his band then to his tribe and country and now (hopefully) to all humanity.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #339 - July 04, 2010, 05:50 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on July 01, 2010, 01:16 PM
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     Cheesy
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #340 - July 04, 2010, 05:58 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on July 01, 2010, 02:12 PM
    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!! In one thread he said rape is only immoral because 'people don't like it', a 53 year old man fucking a nine year old is ok, he didn't give a shit abut haiti or 9/11, and he's never given to charity. This guy is fun. Unban him nao!


    What the? When he get banned? What he do?
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #341 - July 04, 2010, 06:19 PM
    Quote from: Zebedee on July 04, 2010, 05:58 PM
    What the? When he get banned? What he do?

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=10649.msg299653#msg299653
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #342 - July 04, 2010, 07:20 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on July 04, 2010, 06:19 PM
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=10649.msg299653#msg299653


    To be honest, I saw it coming.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #343 - July 04, 2010, 07:42 PM
    I didn't. I mean I always suspected he was a troll or that he was still a Muslim but I never thought he was racist.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #344 - July 05, 2010, 12:41 PM
    Quote from: Mrs. Rambo on June 29, 2010, 10:58 PM
    Not only do men rape women for their nature is designed to propagate its genes and manhood

    What?!!
    I think I failed to get that memo at birth.

    No wonder I have no success with the girls!!!1111 :S
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #345 - July 05, 2010, 12:43 PM
    lulz @ misandry

    It's even more funny than misogyny, cause I am the target so it sounds doubly stupid from my point of view ^_^
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #346 - July 16, 2010, 07:39 AM
    Quote from: Tlaloc on July 05, 2010, 12:41 PM
    What?!!
    I think I failed to get that memo at birth.

    No wonder I have no success with the girls!!!1111 :S


    It is within you, within the folded recesses of your mind. Like a folded cloth that is spread at a picnic of rape. I have peered into your hand basket. I have seen what you have brought for dinner.
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #347 - June 10, 2012, 10:41 AM
    Quote from: DigDug on June 26, 2010, 07:00 AM
    ok this post may seem a little fucked up and I'm not trying to start a debate just hear your views. Now to give you a little background before I became Muslim I lived a pretty materialistic life. i didn't care about religion or morals. The people I hung out with really didn't talk about this stuff.

    .............................................*SNIP*.....................................................

    .... being contrary to "survival of the fittest".

    Shouldn't we kinda try to live our lives like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

    I'm just asking this because i really dont know what to believe after Islam.


    That's so funny dudeee! LMAO!

    I'm watching Conan the Barbarian currently Cheesy (didn't come across that scene ^ yet though) but the thought popped into my head about our morals evolving so the modern man is more 'moral' than way back when in our ancestors...

    So I did a search here 'evolution morals' and found this thread XD and it seems conan the barbarian also inspired you XD
    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #348 - July 28, 2012, 05:31 AM
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #349 - July 28, 2012, 04:26 PM
    I am interested in evolution and morality, or I was a few years back. I had written somewhere here that imo if Moses was aboard the HMS Beagle touring the Galapogas islands he would/may have come out with the theory of evolution and if Charles Darwin was born in Middle East three thousand years ago he may have invented/inspired/codified religion under a monothiestic being.

    Not sure if I have the wherewithal to prove this lol.
    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #350 - July 28, 2012, 04:30 PM
    Quote from: devilsadvokat on July 28, 2012, 04:26 PM
    I am interested in evolution and morality, or I was a few years back. I had written somewhere here that imo if Moses was aboard the HMS Beagle touring the Galapogas islands he would/may have come out with the theory of evolution and if Charles Darwin was born in Middle East three thousand years ago he may have invented/inspired/codified religion under a monothiestic being.

    Not sure if I have the wherewithal to prove this lol.

    Darwin had been into biology all his life before he went to HMS Beagle..
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #351 - July 28, 2012, 04:55 PM
    ^^ ok. If Moses had studied biology all his life and then gone on the HMS Beagle.
    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #352 - July 28, 2012, 05:06 PM
    but he didn't..
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #353 - July 28, 2012, 07:35 PM
    my opinion:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h4qkXkQPj9J11Q7XcYXA1aR0OappwN00NFaO51JF-2A/edit?pli=1
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #354 - July 29, 2012, 05:10 PM
    dr_sloth

    geezer - it is not letting me access that document you provided in the link above. Says need permission - from you i would gather - would love to read it.
    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #355 - July 29, 2012, 07:05 PM
    should work now
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #356 - July 29, 2012, 07:11 PM
    thanx - will get back to you in a day or so
    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #357 - July 29, 2012, 07:12 PM
    Just tapped it - it works, quite substantive ergo perhaps more than a day, but will deffo get back to you
    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Evolution and Morality
     Reply #358 - July 29, 2012, 07:27 PM
    As I observed, our present moral concept derived mainly from million of years of evolution. Even altruism, supporting each other among similar species are something evolved in nature as part and parcel of maintaining the perpetuality of our species.

    As far as religions are concern, I don't think a sadist and genocidal god of Old Testament and Quran can ever be resorted to when it comes to our moral standard.

    Human, being in higher chain on the pyramid of evolution has added altruism, love and cooperaton in order to keep the survival of our gene to be passed down.

    We don't commit murder because we do not want to be murdered or cause the suffering of fellow being, and acquaintances of fellow being.  But our morality will agree to punish criminal murderer with death penalty because they have disrupted the social environment/establishment of a civilized society.

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